Still stuttering in games even after changing almost every piece of hardware.

[OllyOllyOxycontin]

I'm just not sure what else to do. A little long and I don't know all the terminology perfectly, but please bear with me and offer any help.

 

I started off with a 10700k, MSI Z490 Gaming Plus, 32gb ddr4 3600mhz ram, Gigabyte Gaming OC 3080 10gb, and Evga BQ 850w Bronze PSU. I have an ADATA SP550 Premier 120gb 2.5" SSD that I use for my Windows 10 installation, 2 1tb HDDs used for miscellaneous files, and 1tb SPCC M.2 SSD used for my game installs. I use a LG 27GL83A-B monitor.

 

Even when I first built that rig I experienced some stuttering here and there, but when asking online I was usually told it is normal to have a little stuttering here and there. Fast forward to about 3 weeks ago and I was noticing more and more games seemed to stutter. I would go onto the subs for those games and the majority of people were not having the problems I had. If they were I would use the "fix" everyone else was using but that never seemed to work for me. I would watch people with my exact setup running the games I am playing and their performance was always more smooth than mine was.

 

So I started to upgrade. I got the brunt of the hardware in one go. I bought a 7800x3D, Asrock B650E PG RIPTIDE, 32gb(2x16) 6000mhz cl30 RAM(F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K), and a PNY 4080 Super. Swapped out the old hardware and installed the new. Made sure XMP was on and I DDU'd properly and installed the latest GPU drivers. Prefer Maximum Performance is on in Nvidia CP and Power Plan was set to Highest Performance.

 

Was stuttering still just like before. I started to monitor with Afterburner much more closely now. I was getting the correct FPS I should be in games but my .1% lows were always much worse off than all the others I am watching on Youtube. My .1% lows are always lower and my frametime graph is always showing more stuttering than theirs and I can feel them happening constantly. I tested in 3DMark TimeSpy and it had my scores as higher than average? CPU never gets hotter than 70-75C in gaming and max temp after 10 minutes on Cinebench is 82c. GPU never gets above 70c. Drives and RAM are cool.

 

I searched around for fixes related to the new hardware. I have tried- disabling fTMP, Resizable BAR, Disabling XMP, and disabling the MBs Wifi. I ran OCCT memory test for an hour and cleared. I checked my drives health with Crystal Disk INFO and their health is "Good". I ran Windows Error Checking Tool on the drives and no errors were found. And even reset Windows 10.

 

Still stuttering just like before. I searched around and asked online. I was told that that maybe I should upgrade my PSU as I have had it awhile and there were newer PSUs that worked better with the 40 series GPUs. So I bought a Thermaltake GF A3 1050w PSU. I unhooked my old PSU and installed the new one, even using that new fancy 600w 12vhpwr cable for the GPU. Still stuttering. I was told that the PNY 4080 Super has an issue with the fans revving, so I switched out the GPU and added back in my 3080.

 

Still stuttering just like before and honestly I am about to give up. It happens in Online or Offline games just the same. With or without an internet connection. Even in easy to run games like Stardew Valley I will experience a hitch here and there. If anyone has any ideas on what I can do to finally be able stops the stutters I would be eternally grateful.

[WereCat]

Are you sure the majority of games you play don't suffer from shader compilation stutter? Which is quite a common thing in new games... unfortunately.

Like you mentioned Elden Ring in one of your posts which is definitely a game that suffers from this. It will get better the more you play... unless you update driver or change GPU in which case all the shaders will have to recompile again.

[Levent]

Which games exactly? Shit code will run like shit on every pc.

[OllyOllyOxycontin]

10 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Are you sure the majority of games you play don't suffer from shader compilation stutter? Which is quite a common thing in new games... unfortunately.

Like you mentioned Elden Ring in one of your posts which is definitely a game that suffers from this. It will get better the more you play... unless you update driver or change GPU in which case all the shaders will have to recompile again.

Elden Ring was just one game, but it happens in in pretty much every game I have tested. Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima, Red Dead Redemption 2, Returnal, RE4Remake and Village, DOOM and DOOM Eternal, Monster Hunter World and Rise, Hogwarts Legacy, Metal Gear Solid  Phantom Pain, Minecraft Java, Warframe, and Cyberpunk 2077 so far.

[OllyOllyOxycontin]

8 minutes ago, Levent said:

Which games exactly? Shit code will run like shit on every pc.

Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima, Red Dead Redemption 2, Returnal, RE4Remake and Village, DOOM and DOOM Eternal, Monster Hunter World and Rise, Hogwarts Legacy, Metal Gear Solid  Phantom Pain, Minecraft Java, Warframe, and Cyberpunk 2077 so far.

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, OllyOllyOxycontin said:

Elden Ring was just one game, but it happens in in pretty much every game I have tested. Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima, Red Dead Redemption 2, Returnal, RE4Remake and Village, DOOM and DOOM Eternal, Monster Hunter World and Rise, Hogwarts Legacy, Metal Gear Solid  Phantom Pain, Minecraft Java, Warframe, and Cyberpunk 2077 so far.

Well damn. Some of these are the "bad ones" but some of them should run basically perfectly.

Have you tried these games on Linux to see if you get these issues there as well? Like a double check to verify it's not just something on Windows causing this... like some RGB software or something like that, friend had for example Razer SW using 20% of his CPU for no reason.

[Levent]

2 minutes ago, OllyOllyOxycontin said:

Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima, Red Dead Redemption 2, Returnal, RE4Remake and Village, DOOM and DOOM Eternal, Monster Hunter World and Rise, Hogwarts Legacy, Metal Gear Solid  Phantom Pain, Minecraft Java, Warframe, and Cyberpunk 2077 so far.

How bad of a stutter are we talking here. I have done a shit ton of hardware testing with RDR2 to know that game quite well. That game needs an absolutely shit CPU to stutter. 
 

 

Do you still have Hdds in this system?

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, Levent said:

How bad of a stutter are we talking here. I have done a shit ton of hardware testing with RDR2 to know that game quite well. That game needs an absolutely shit CPU to stutter. 
 

 

Do you still have Hdds in this system?

From my experience RDR2 on DX12 sutters quite a lot but on Vulkan not only it runs at higher FPS but also buttery smooth.

[OllyOllyOxycontin]

5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Well damn. Some of these are the "bad ones" but some of them should run basically perfectly.

Have you tried these games on Linux to see if you get these issues there as well? Like a double check to verify it's not just something on Windows causing this... like some RGB software or something like that, friend had for example Razer SW using 20% of his CPU for no reason.

Haven't tried Linux as I have zero knowledge of it. The only RGB in my PC is on the GPU and Motherboard but I have already disabled them with no changes. I never installed or used anything from Razor.

3 minutes ago, Levent said:

How bad of a stutter are we talking here. I have done a shit ton of hardware testing with RDR2 to know that game quite well. That game needs an absolutely shit CPU to stutter. 
 

 

Do you still have Hdds in this system?

It's not completely the same in every game, but the most common kind I see is an instant drop in 1% and especially .1% lows. These can happen frequently or once or twice a minute. I thought it was maybe shader compilation but they happen in area I have spent hours in still. I have 2 HDDs installed though all they do is hold family photos.

[OllyOllyOxycontin]

The only constant so far are my monitor and drives. I use a 1.4 DisplayPort cord for my monitor, but seen the same performance when using a 2.0 HDMI. Can drives cause stuttering even though their "health" is supposedly good and Windows detects zero error from them?

[OllyOllyOxycontin]

Bump because I am desperate.