Would a new case solve this?

[PocketNerd]

Been noticing some weird stuttering in Diablo 4 (I know, there's performance issues) so I decided to monitor some performance. Aside from learning that the performance tracking in Task Manager is laughably bad for the GPU, these numbers seem to be high while idling in town. I have an old Coolermaster HAF that doesn't seem to be getting much airflow despite the lack of dust around the fans. Time to replace? For additional context, this is the full-tower HAF before they decided to revamp it with USB 3.0 in the front.

[10leej]

The Coolermaster HAF is the one with the huge fan on the top of the case right? If so try reversing that fan so it blows air directly onto the GPU at full speed. If it makes a difference then you know your answer.

[PocketNerd]

6 minutes ago, 10leej said:

The Coolermaster HAF is the one with the huge fan on the top of the case right? If so try reversing that fan so it blows air directly onto the GPU at full speed. If it makes a difference then you know your answer.

Yeah, it's that one. Will get it a shot.

[kitnoman]

It might be idling. But your gpu is running 95% at 82c. That's decent and should not cause those stutters. 1660ti does not put a lot of heat. But if you really think it's an overheating issue, why don't you remove the side panel so it would be at room temp all the time. If the temps drops even at 70c and performance  improves, then get another case. But I doubt that, I believe your issue lies elsewhere. I see that you have a few drives, an ssd and at least one hdd, where's your game installed at? It might even be a vram issue as you almost use the full 6gb and borrowing from virtual memory(that shared gpu memory). Meaning your settings are too high or there's a vram leak. Check diablo forums/threads if there's vram leak issue.

 

Edit: Just because "you" are idling/afk in a town, it does not mean your gpu is idling and stopped rendering/working.

[PocketNerd]

32 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

It might be idling. But your gpu is running 95% at 82c. That's decent and should not cause those stutters. 1660ti does not put a lot of heat. But if you really think it's an overheating issue, why don't you remove the side panel so it would be at room temp all the time. If the temps drops even at 70c and performance  improves, then get another case. But I doubt that, I believe your issue lies elsewhere. I see that you have a few drives, an ssd and at least one hdd, where's your game installed at? It might even be a vram issue as you almost use the full 6gb and borrowing from virtual memory(that shared gpu memory). Meaning your settings are too high or there's a vram leak. Check diablo forums/threads if there's vram leak issue.

 

Edit: Just because "you" are idling/afk in a town, it does not mean your gpu is idling and stopped rendering/working.

Fair points all around. The game is thankfully installed on an SSD, will also try lowering settings to lesson the load on vram.

[NorKris]

42 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

 It might even be a vram issue as you almost use the full 6gb and borrowing from virtual memory(that shared gpu memory). Meaning your settings are too high or there's a vram leak. Check diablo forums/threads if there's vram leak issue.

 

This.

Maxing out gpu Ram makes it stutter, tested this over and over with diff settings 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

59 minutes ago, 10leej said:

The Coolermaster HAF is the one with the huge fan on the top of the case right? If so try reversing that fan so it blows air directly onto the GPU at full speed. If it makes a difference then you know your answer.

Think you meant the side panel intake fan right? Top intakes wouldn't really reach the GPU. 

[PocketNerd]

14 minutes ago, NorKris said:

This.

Maxing out gpu Ram makes it stutter, tested this over and over with diff settings 

Yeah, a quick google shows that D4 will max allocate vram even though it might not use it all. Despite that I did fiddle with some settings and got it to go down to 75-76 max.

11 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Think you meant the side panel intake fan right? Top intakes wouldn't really reach the GPU. 

Top is set to be a blowy, front and back are suckies (intake) and there's no side panel fan. That said they're using molex connectors so there's no speed control, maybe it's time to replace those...

[NorKris]

Just now, PocketNerd said:

Yeah, a quick google shows that D4 will max allocate vram even though it might not use it all. Despite that I did fiddle with some settings and got it to go down to 75-76 max.

how did the game feel when the GPU-ram is not maxed?  

[PocketNerd]

53 minutes ago, NorKris said:

how did the game feel when the GPU-ram is not maxed?  

Much better when in town. Out in the world or dungeons was mostly ok already.

[kitnoman]

1 minute ago, PocketNerd said:

Much better when in town. Out in the world or dungeons was mostly ok already.

Yeah, people thought that 8gb and nvidia bottlenecking their gpu with lower vram was new. But they actually did it in previous generations too.  Like 2060 6gb, or your 1660s/ti, that arguably at 1070 performance. Even 1060 3/6gb had this issue then on some games and is even more evident now, when compared to their amd counterpart.

[NorKris]

4 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

Yeah, people thought that 8gb and nvidia bottlenecking their gpu with lower vram was new. But they actually did it in previous generations too.  Like 2060 6gb, or your 1660s/ti, that arguably at 1070 performance. Even 1060 3/6gb had this issue then on some games and is even more evident now, when compared to their amd counterpart.

bro, im at 12GB on a  10GB 3080,  its 2gb over and stuttering  feelsbad 

[PocketNerd]

1 hour ago, kitnoman said:

Yeah, people thought that 8gb and nvidia bottlenecking their gpu with lower vram was new. But they actually did it in previous generations too.  Like 2060 6gb, or your 1660s/ti, that arguably at 1070 performance. Even 1060 3/6gb had this issue then on some games and is even more evident now, when compared to their amd counterpart.

Even the 3060 in my laptop has 6gb of vram. But texture quality and water quality were already turned down so that would explain why I wasn't getting the same behaviour.

[kitnoman]

4 hours ago, NorKris said:

bro, im at 12GB on a  10GB 3080,  its 2gb over and stuttering  feelsbad 

That's why I waited for 12gb 3080. To be honest, 1060 should had 8gb. I never have specific number of vram when it comes to the bottleneck. What I believe, in a gpu, the only bottleneck should be the chip itself. If only the vram, would drastically improve the performance, it's a bad design. Take for example a 3060 12gb, everyone believe that it can't utilized the full 12gb has the gpu chip itself isn't powerful enough. Like if it runs a game at 25fps on ultra, adding another 4gb of vram won't affect that performance at all anymore. However, imagine 3060ti/3070 with even just 10gb. Or compare your 3080 10gb, with the 12gb(I don't want to compare it with the actual 3080 12gb as the full specs isn't really one to one). Personally I think any card that's targeting 1440p/4k resolution gaming at this point and time, should at least have 12gb. Fact is any gpu that's at least 2080ti level or higher should have at least 10 or more vram at this point. Because the chip itself can push the performance. If you watch a review of a modified 3070 with 16gb vram. While it did not directly increase the average fps on most game, it greatly increase the 1% and 0.1% lows making the game smoother and with no stutters.

[10leej]

8 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Think you meant the side panel intake fan right? Top intakes wouldn't really reach the GPU. 

The GPU is in the upper chamber right? If so it totally would.

[PocketNerd]

3 hours ago, 10leej said:

The GPU is in the upper chamber right? If so it totally would.

Not quite, apologies for poor photo quality since I hastily took it under my desk.

[10leej]

3 hours ago, PocketNerd said:

Not quite, apologies for poor photo quality since I hastily took it under my desk.

oh apologoes on my part I was thinking the wrong case in my head.

[PocketNerd]

1 hour ago, 10leej said:

oh apologoes on my part I was thinking the wrong case in my head.

No worries, there's been multiple versions of the HAF since.