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Connecting Residential Fiber

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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7 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I have already done so and I was waiting for them to bury it. I want to avoid the installation charge if there isn't anything special

So is ONT not an adapter for fiber to ethernet? I was going to use an SFP that uses fiber to populate a switch

And how are you going to do NAT?

How are you going to firewall?

The fiber SFPs most ISPs use are GPON based, not standard SFPs you can pick up and they have to be tuned/set to the right frequency. Plus you'll have to get the ISP to allow you to use that SFP and authenticate you onto their network without the ONT.

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Hello, I recently got fiber in my neighborhood and want to switch to it but currently have a cable modem. After some research it appears I need an ONT instead of a modem but I'm not sure if there is anything proprietary about it. As from the looks of it could I just use a fiber SFP and then populate a 48 port switch to get internet? Is the SFP considered an ONT or is there some customer checking or security happening on a purpose built ONT or ONT/router combo? Thanks!

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Probably a better question for your ISP than us, no? 

2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

ONT instead of a modem

5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Is the SFP considered an ONT

ONT is basically a fiber modem: https://us.hitrontech.com/learn/what-is-an-ont/. SFP is a network interface standard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Form-factor_Pluggable. 

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19 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

You need to contact the fiber ISP and sign up for service.

I have already done so and I was waiting for them to bury it. I want to avoid the installation charge if there isn't anything special

17 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Probably a better question for your ISP than us, no? 

ONT is basically a fiber modem: https://us.hitrontech.com/learn/what-is-an-ont/. SFP is a network interface standard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Form-factor_Pluggable. 

So is ONT not an adapter for fiber to ethernet? I was going to use an SFP that uses fiber to populate a switch

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7 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I have already done so and I was waiting for them to bury it. I want to avoid the installation charge if there isn't anything special

So is ONT not an adapter for fiber to ethernet? I was going to use an SFP that uses fiber to populate a switch

And how are you going to do NAT?

How are you going to firewall?

The fiber SFPs most ISPs use are GPON based, not standard SFPs you can pick up and they have to be tuned/set to the right frequency. Plus you'll have to get the ISP to allow you to use that SFP and authenticate you onto their network without the ONT.

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58 minutes ago, Lurick said:

And how are you going to do NAT?

How are you going to firewall?

The fiber SFPs most ISPs use are GPON based, not standard SFPs you can pick up and they have to be tuned/set to the right frequency. Plus you'll have to get the ISP to allow you to use that SFP and authenticate you onto their network without the ONT.

Thanks for the reply. This is what I sorta figured it just seemed much simpler in my head than a cable network. I'll give the ISP a call and get an ONT

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30 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Thanks for the reply. This is what I sorta figured it just seemed much simpler in my head than a cable network. I'll give the ISP a call and get an ONT

Yah, it's one of those things you think you'll be able to do yourself and then realize it's more complex 😞

I tried doing that with AT&T myself and gave up pretty quick.

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5 hours ago, BuckGup said:

or is there some customer checking or security happening on a purpose built ONT

The ONT is kinda like your cable modem. Its what is authorized to connect to your ISP's network. Some ISP's will use PPPoE for authentication as well. Some ISP's will give you a standard ONT while others will give you a combo device.

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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