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3 minutes ago, lyngeh said:

Budget (including currency): 11,5k DKK / 1.656,18USD

Country: Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Diablo 4, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So my issue is i'm having trouble chosing cus i have absolutely no clue as to what's the "better deal".

The "white pc" is brand new and costs 1650USD, while the black one is a used, which i can buy for 1584USD. So i'm seeking abit of expert chosing my next build

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The white pc will come with a 3year warranty. The black pc is under warranty untill 13th december 2024.

The black one looks like a better deal as it has a very good gaming cpu and that 3080 is essentially a 4070. I would get the black one and the warranty is still for another one and a half years so I would go for that

Budget (including currency): 11,5k DKK / 1.656,18USD

Country: Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Diablo 4, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So my issue is i'm having trouble chosing cus i have absolutely no clue as to what's the "better deal".

The "white pc" is brand new and costs 1650USD, while the black one is a used, which i can buy for 1584USD. So i'm seeking abit of expert chosing my next build

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The white pc will come with a 3year warranty. The black pc is under warranty untill 13th december 2024.

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3 minutes ago, lyngeh said:

Budget (including currency): 11,5k DKK / 1.656,18USD

Country: Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Diablo 4, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

So my issue is i'm having trouble chosing cus i have absolutely no clue as to what's the "better deal".

The "white pc" is brand new and costs 1650USD, while the black one is a used, which i can buy for 1584USD. So i'm seeking abit of expert chosing my next build

image.png.c4ee3cacc7f64debdcce05bcd9e763be.pngimage.png.9db0ba7e3c2ee1de40418da71f1d6c78.png

 

The white pc will come with a 3year warranty. The black pc is under warranty untill 13th december 2024.

The black one looks like a better deal as it has a very good gaming cpu and that 3080 is essentially a 4070. I would get the black one and the warranty is still for another one and a half years so I would go for that

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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That was sort of also what i was thinking. The only upside to buying the new one seems to me that you get a better GPU (by a tiny margin) and the warranty? But i guess i'll be grabbing that black one then. Appreciate the help!

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I am abit at cocflict with the setups to be honest. But yes, the black system, is the right choice, but i dont know if its the best choice your budget.
Personally i would ask around on hardwareonline.dk as this is purely Danish geeks and alot of the users have a finger on the pulse of great deals.

Desktop AMD Ryzen 9 5950X - Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 - G. Skill Ripjaws 32gb 3200mhz CL16 - Palit RTX 3080ti - Custom loop for CPU
SimRig  AMD Ryzen 5 5800x3D - Aorus X570 Elite - Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32gb 3600Mhz CL18 - Gainward Phantom 4090 - Custom loop for CPU
Livingroom Intel Xeon E5-2667v3 - Asus X99-AII - Corsair Vengeance 48gb 3200mhz CL18 - PNY 3090 XLR8 - Custom loop for CPU

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I would probably take my time to look more into things, if it wasn't because i'm on a "deadline" i WANT it before Diablo 4 launch. But i'll definetly bookmark that website, tyvm!

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6 minutes ago, lyngeh said:

I would probably take my time to look more into things, if it wasn't because i'm on a "deadline" i WANT it before Diablo 4 launch. But i'll definetly bookmark that website, tyvm!

You should take a look, users also sell fully built systems at a lower price, and they are often better speced, cos they dont add the value of assembly.

Desktop AMD Ryzen 9 5950X - Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 - G. Skill Ripjaws 32gb 3200mhz CL16 - Palit RTX 3080ti - Custom loop for CPU
SimRig  AMD Ryzen 5 5800x3D - Aorus X570 Elite - Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32gb 3600Mhz CL18 - Gainward Phantom 4090 - Custom loop for CPU
Livingroom Intel Xeon E5-2667v3 - Asus X99-AII - Corsair Vengeance 48gb 3200mhz CL18 - PNY 3090 XLR8 - Custom loop for CPU

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12 minutes ago, TheSign said:

You should take a look, users also sell fully built systems at a lower price, and they are often better speced, cos they dont add the value of assembly.

I definetly will

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Both configs are not bad, but the used one is terrible value, considering it's used. Both however have the the same drawback - too little VRAM. For that kind of money i'd go something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1373.00kr @ Føniks Computer) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 CPU Cooler  (338.00kr @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (842.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (464.00kr @ Proshop) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (565.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (6790.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (541.00kr @ Proshop) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (1008.00kr @ Føniks Computer) 
Total: 11921.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-28 12:47 CEST+0200

 

It's bit over the budget (think by something like $65), but every single part is at least a tier up in quality. Also as you can see a lot of the parts are from the same Proshop, so maybe if you order them at once the shipping will slim way down or if they have a certain treshold for free shipping it will certainly reach it.

| Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 Rev 7| AsRock X570 Steel Legend |

| 4x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo 4000MHz CL16 | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT | Seasonic Focus GX-1000|

| 512GB A-Data XPG Spectrix S40G RGB | 2TB A-Data SX8200 Pro| Phanteks Eclipse G500A |

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3 minutes ago, QuantumSingularity said:

Both configs are not bad, but the used one is terrible value, considering it's used. Both however have the the same drawback - too little VRAM. For that kind of money i'd go something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1373.00kr @ Føniks Computer) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 CPU Cooler  (338.00kr @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (842.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (464.00kr @ Proshop) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (565.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (6790.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (541.00kr @ Proshop) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (1008.00kr @ Føniks Computer) 
Total: 11921.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-28 12:47 CEST+0200

 

Itá bit over the budget, but every single part is at least a tier up in quality.

Thats a decent build but if you go for a 5600, ak400 and 3200 ram as well as a slightly lower wattage psu then you can get a very good full size atx mobo in a case with 4 fans (cc560)

PCPartPicker Part List: https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FvWmnt

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1029.00kr @ Føniks Computer) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (296.00kr @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (1251.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (368.00kr @ Proshop) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (565.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (6790.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (494.00kr @ Alternate) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750 GQ 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (883.00kr @ Proshop) 
Total: 11676.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-28 12:53 CEST+0200

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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8 minutes ago, filpo said:

Thats a decent build but if you go for a 5600, ak400 and 3200 ram as well as a slightly lower wattage psu then you can get a very good full size atx mobo in a case with 4 fans (cc560)

PCPartPicker Part List: https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FvWmnt

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1029.00kr @ Føniks Computer) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (296.00kr @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (1251.00kr @ Proshop) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (368.00kr @ Proshop) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (565.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (6790.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (494.00kr @ Alternate) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750 GQ 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (883.00kr @ Proshop) 
Total: 11676.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-28 12:53 CEST+0200

Well with the 5600 techically won't need even a separate cooler, the box one works just fine. As for the PSU it's absolutely ok to go with 750W, but i always prefer to put in a bit of headroom in there, that's why chose the 850W. But yeah the Tomahawk mobo is SWEET. And yeah, the non-X CPU doesn't need the 3600MHz memory.

| Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 Rev 7| AsRock X570 Steel Legend |

| 4x16GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo 4000MHz CL16 | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT | Seasonic Focus GX-1000|

| 512GB A-Data XPG Spectrix S40G RGB | 2TB A-Data SX8200 Pro| Phanteks Eclipse G500A |

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