5900x Low Score on Cinebench and others, even with Overclock - help!

[hensz]

Hi guys, can you please provide me your opinion on my scores and the issue that i am facing?

 

My 5900x with a B550-E Motherboard + 2x32GB DDR4 3600 16-18-18-36 + Corsair H150i 360mm AIO gets low scores on Cinebench R20 and other benchmarks.

I cannot get past Single core 630 and multi core 8711, on the reviews that i see online a 5900x should be getting at least 635, points without overclock, i cant get over 630 witih my best OC as per below.

Stock - R20 Single 618 - Multi 8104
Only D.O.C.P 3600 16-18-18-36 and FCLK 1800 set, rest on Auto.
 

OC - R20 Single 630 - Multi 8711 or OC + High priority  - R20 Single 625 - Multi 8908
D.O.C.P 3600 16-18-18-36
FCLK 1800)
Scalar 2X
PBO All cores -20
Max CPU Boost +100
LLC Level 3
Power Phase Control Extreme
Voltage offset -0.11250


Stock Screenshot

 

 

 

 

OC Screenshot

Thank you in advance

[Bob__]

7 minutes ago, hensz said:

Hi guys, can you please provide me your opinion on my scores and the issue that i am facing?

 

My 5900x with a B550-E Motherboard + 2x32GB DDR4 3600 16-18-18-36 gets low scores on Cinebench R20 and other benchmarks.

I cannot get past Single core 630 and multi core 8711, on the reviews that i see online a 5900x should be getting at least 635, points without overclock, i cant get over 630 witih my best OC as per below.

Stock - R20 Single 618 - Multi 8104
Only D.O.C.P 3600 16-18-18-36 and FCLK 1800 set, rest on Auto.
 

OC - R20 Single 630 - Multi 8711
D.O.C.P 3600 16-18-18-36
FCLK 1800)
Scalar 2X
PBO All cores -20
Max CPU Boost +100
LLC Level 3
Power Phase Control Extreme
Voltage offset -0.11250


Stock Screenshot

 

 

 

 

OC Screenshot

Thank you in advance

I feel that your temps are quite high what is your cooler, and on a completely unrelated note but my i5-13600K was underperforming by like 1000 points in cinebench r23 then what reviewers said. After the overclock it is doing about 1.5K above stock but ouputing 3x the heat. so I mean your millage may vary.

[hensz]

10 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

I feel that your temps are quite high what is your cooler, and on a completely unrelated note but my i5-13600K was underperforming by like 1000 points in cinebench r23 then what reviewers said. After the overclock it is doing about 1.5K above stock but ouputing 3x the heat. so I mean your millage may vary.

Corsair H150i 360 AIO, are you sure about the temps? Overclocked it does not pass over 84c

[191x7]

22 minutes ago, hensz said:

Hi guys, can you please provide me your opinion on my scores and the issue that i am facing?

 

My 5900x with a B550-E Motherboard + 2x32GB DDR4 3600 16-18-18-36 gets low scores on Cinebench R20 and other benchmarks.

I cannot get past Single core 630 and multi core 8711, on the reviews that i see online a 5900x should be getting at least 635, points without overclock, i cant get over 630 witih my best OC as per below.

Stock - R20 Single 618 - Multi 8104
Only D.O.C.P 3600 16-18-18-36 and FCLK 1800 set, rest on Auto.
 

OC - R20 Single 630 - Multi 8711
D.O.C.P 3600 16-18-18-36
FCLK 1800)
Scalar 2X
PBO All cores -20
Max CPU Boost +100
LLC Level 3
Power Phase Control Extreme
Voltage offset -0.11250

Set the priority of the benchmark process to High.

[Bob__]

1 minute ago, hensz said:

Corsair H115i 360 AIO, are you sure about the temps? Overclocked it does not pass over 84c

its a 105W chip theres no way it should be that high on an AIO like that

[freeagent]

13 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

16 minutes ago, hensz said:

Corsair H115i 360 AIO, are you sure about the temps? Overclocked it does not pass over 84c

its a 105W chip

When you take control, the chip is capable of 240w PPT with PBO.

 

105w is at a static 3700MHz.

[hensz]

19 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Set the priority of the benchmark process to High.

Done, got a little better con multicore but got worst on single core:

OC - R20 Single 630 - Multi 8711

to 

OC + High priority  - R20 Single 625 - Multi 8908

[YoungBlade]

20 minutes ago, hensz said:

Corsair H150i 360 AIO, are you sure about the temps? Overclocked it does not pass over 84c

Ryzen chips do not thermal throttle the same way Intel chips do. Intel chips will happily boost to their rated clockspeed until they reach TJMax. Ryzen is more controlled, like with a GPU. It will begin throttling before it has actually reached TJMax, bit by bit, in an effort to keep away from TJMax.

 

My 5900X starts to clock lower when Tdie/Package reaches 70C. You're up at 84C, which means that you're definitely losing clockspeed relative to if you were at 64C. Just keeping Ryzen cool will dramatically improve performance.

[johnno23]

Also running a 5900x here.

just ran cinebench 23 just to get a look. single core 1611 temps stable at 54C

Multicore 22738 temps max temps reached 74c

I  think that you might need to check the mounting pressure of the AIO. 

[Bob__]

8 minutes ago, freeagent said:

When you take control, the chip is capable of 240w PPT with PBO.

 

105w is at a static 3700MHz.

still my air cooler is taking like 325W

[tkitch]

post a screenshot of HWInfo64?

[PDifolco]

30 minutes ago, hensz said:

Done, got a little better con multicore but got worst on single core:

OC - R20 Single 630 - Multi 8711

to 

OC + High priority  - R20 Single 625 - Multi 8908

I'm not familiar with cinebench R20 could you try R23 and note clocks speed and PPT, EDC and TDC?

[_Omega_]

Not all CPUs are build the same, with modern bust behaviors some are just better than others. 

 

[hensz]

13 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

I'm not familiar with cinebench R20 could you try R23 and note clocks speed and PPT, EDC and TDC?

PPT, EDC and TDP was set to "motherboard" (PPT 1000, TDC 160, EDC 190) that gave me:
R23 Multi Core 22433
R23 Single Core 1609

I had also tryied PPT 165, TDC 115 ,EDC 150 that gave me: 
R23 Multi Core 22521
R23 Single Core 1590

Do you have any suggestions on PPT; EDC and EDC values for best performance and temps?


 

[PDifolco]

6 minutes ago, hensz said:

PPT, EDC and TDP was set to "motherboard" (PPT 1000, TDC 160, EDC 190) that gave me:
R23 Multi Core 22433
R23 Single Core 1609

I had also tryied PPT 165, TDC 115 ,EDC 150 that gave me: 
R23 Multi Core 22521
R23 Single Core 1590

Do you have any suggestions on PPT; EDC and EDC values for best performance and temps?


 

Your results are quite good, fiddling with PL seems useless to me

You can gain a few percent more multi score but this will usually be detrimental to single core perf so bad for gaming...

Only thing I'd do would be to set -30 PBO to all cores except the 4 best ones 

[freeagent]

1 hour ago, Bob__ said:

still my air cooler is taking like 325W

How is that possible?

 

1000 PPT is not real.

 

Here is my last R23 run:

 

 

[Bob__]

2 minutes ago, freeagent said:

How is that possible?

 

I really dont know but I reassure you that it is. I have picture proof if you want

[hensz]

26 minutes ago, freeagent said:

How is that possible?

 

1000 PPT is not real.

 

Here is my last R23 run:

 

 

1000w is the motherboard setting it as "limitless".. the EDC and TDC values will not allow the CPU to arrive to it.. never seen a 5900x surpass 220w...

[hensz]

25 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

I really dont know but I reassure you that it is. I have picture proof if you want

Not saying it is not possible to hit 350w+, but there is currently no air cooler able to handle it..

[hensz]

1 hour ago, PDifolco said:

Your results are quite good, fiddling with PL seems useless to me

You can gain a few percent more multi score but this will usually be detrimental to single core perf so bad for gaming...

Only thing I'd do would be to set -30 PBO to all cores except the 4 best ones 

How to i identify the best 4 cofres? i am able just to see the two that ryzen master shows up as best.

Is it better to have the "worst" corest with a higher negative offset and better cores with a lower one

example: all -30 and the best 4 cores -20

or the opposite

example: all -15 and the best 4 cores -25

?

[Bob__]

3 minutes ago, hensz said:

Not saying it is not possible to hit 350w+, but there is currently no air cooler able to handle it..

the NHD15 throttles in like 2 seconds with the 375W profile but the 325W one is fine for about 1 minutes good enough for a cinebench pull. And I'm working on acquiring a copper IceGiant ProSiphon

[PDifolco]

59 minutes ago, hensz said:

How to i identify the best 4 cofres? i am able just to see the two that ryzen master shows up as best.

Is it better to have the "worst" corest with a higher negative offset and better cores with a lower one

example: all -30 and the best 4 cores -20

or the opposite

example: all -15 and the best 4 cores -25

?

To see core rankings use HWinfo64

Put -30 on the worst cores and -15 to -20 on the best ones as they need to clock a bit higher

Some ppl have good silicon that stands -30 to all cores so ymmv

[Ebony Falcon]

6 hours ago, Bob__ said:

I feel that your temps are quite high what is your cooler, and on a completely unrelated note but my i5-13600K was underperforming by like 1000 points in cinebench r23 then what reviewers said. After the overclock it is doing about 1.5K above stock but ouputing 3x the heat. so I mean your millage may vary.

Really ? Mine over performs buy about 1000 points 24.6k stock 

[Bob__]

59 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Really ? Mine over performs buy about 1000 points 24.6k stock 

damn bro I got like 23.5 stock and 26.75 OC

[Ebony Falcon]

32 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

damn bro I got like 23.5 stock and 26.75 OC

23k was what all the reviewers were getting 

I have a super clean os with a lot of windows bullshit removed and ran on high priority