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650W enough for 7900XTX + i7 10700KF system?

Princess Luna

I've been out of the radar for quite a while so I wanted to do a sanity check here.

 

I'm putting together a brand new gaming focused PC which should run on stock (there shouldn't be a need to OC since 7900XTX at 3440x1440p res).

 

Specs are an i7 10700KF with a RX7900XTX, planning on using a Corsair TX650M (latest grey label) that I already got. The reference 7900XTX at stock should peak at 350w which leaves another 300w headroom for the rest of the system... should be fine right? Or is picking a higher wattage PSU really necessary here?

 

@GoldenLag@Stefan Payne@LukeSavenije@Jurrunio any of you old folk can give me your thoughts? Thank you so much!

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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No. I would advise 850

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Youll be fine as long as you undervolt the gpu, dont need to throw away perfectly good psus

 

When the need to overclock or swap for more power hungry hardware arrives then you may replace the psu

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1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

I've been out of the radar for quite a while so I wanted to do a sanity check here.

 

I'm putting together a brand new gaming focused PC which should run on stock (there shouldn't be a need to OC since 7900XTX at 3440x1440p res).

 

Specs are an i7 10700KF with a RX7900XTX, planning on using a Corsair TX650M (latest grey label) that I already got. The reference 7900XTX at stock should peak at 350w which leaves another 300w headroom for the rest of the system... should be fine right? Or is picking a higher wattage PSU really necessary here?

 

@GoldenLag@Stefan Payne@LukeSavenije@Jurrunio any of you old folk can give me your thoughts? Thank you so much!

Probably will work at stock settings, but OC 7900XTX can reach insane power draw of 500W+, while 10700K can draw 200 so no OC for you 

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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It's borderline fine I suppose. If it's an Nvidia GPU I would say that's a bad idea because they didn't bother with voltage ripple suppression for the PSU but Navi 3X doesn't appear to have the same problem so far. 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

It's borderline fine I suppose. If it's an Nvidia GPU I would say that's a bad idea because they didn't bother with voltage ripple suppression for the PSU but Navi 3X doesn't appear to have the same problem so far. 

I'll force the card to its 350w reference tdp. Doesn't really bother sacrificing that lil bit performance when the cost is so high power wise any ways... specially when I'm only at 1440p ultrawide xd

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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9 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

I've been out of the radar for quite a while so I wanted to do a sanity check here.

 

I'm putting together a brand new gaming focused PC which should run on stock (there shouldn't be a need to OC since 7900XTX at 3440x1440p res).

 

Specs are an i7 10700KF with a RX7900XTX, planning on using a Corsair TX650M (latest grey label) that I already got. The reference 7900XTX at stock should peak at 350w which leaves another 300w headroom for the rest of the system... should be fine right? Or is picking a higher wattage PSU really necessary here?

 

@GoldenLag@Stefan Payne@LukeSavenije@Jurrunio any of you old folk can give me your thoughts? Thank you so much!

7900xtx peaks closer to a bit over 400W. 
I would not buy a 650W to go with it, but I would also not feel the need to upgrade it if its what I have. Its a well built PSU that delivers 650W without actually being stressed about it. 

 

9 hours ago, UnknownWalls said:

No. I would advise 850


LOL why. Pull that out of your rear end did you?

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1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

I'll force the card to its 350w reference tdp. Doesn't really bother sacrificing that lil bit performance when the cost is so high power wise any ways... specially when I'm only at 1440p ultrawide xd

The voltage ripple problem cannot be controlled by power limit unless you dial it way down, tho you probably wont get over 300w during normal use either.

 

Honestly undervolt is probably the best compromise you could do other than buying a new PSU

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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22 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The voltage ripple problem cannot be controlled by power limit unless you dial it way down, tho you probably wont get over 300w during normal use either.

 

Honestly undervolt is probably the best compromise you could do other than buying a new PSU

am I missing something here?
Even at 700W provided that PSU is 40mv on 12v which, while not industry-leading, is more than good enough unless overlocked to the edge, which we are not doing here.

The actual parts used have zero say in ripple (so I am not sure I understand your Nvidia vs AMD comment either)

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29 minutes ago, starsmine said:

am I missing something here?
Even at 700W provided that PSU is 40mv on 12v which, while not industry-leading, is more than good enough unless overlocked to the edge, which we are not doing here.

The actual parts used have zero say in ripple (so I am not sure I understand your Nvidia vs AMD comment either)

Voltage transients is the proper name for it I think? Check the Nvidia 30 series tripping PSUs news from the past.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Voltage transients is the proper name for it I think? Check the Nvidia 30 series tripping PSUs news from the past.

Yes, if that is what you are referring to that makes sense. 40 series brought it under control for the most part, but yea poor PSU to run the top end 30 series cards on.

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14 hours ago, starsmine said:

LOL why. Pull that out of your rear end did you?

Yes.

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