How can I cool this better

[Bob__]

3 minutes ago, McrP87 said:

@Bob__alr has a nh-d15 in the s config. its constantly running at 105c

no not really thermal throttles after about 5 minutes

[AlwaysFSX]

6 minutes ago, McrP87 said:

@Bob__alr has a nh-d15 in the s config. its constantly running at 105c

Gee, and I posted about why it does that.

@Bob__get a contact frame (GN has reviewed them) and you'll knock quite a few degrees off your temps and stabilize clocks better. That's your solution, not throwing more cooler at the cpu right off the bat.

[Bob__]

27 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Right, so a 360mm (as I said previously) and then add a GPU so you can turn off the iGPU which will allow the CPU to OC a tiny bit higher since it's not wasting on the iGPU.

 

I am maxxing all your options here.  AIO allows more OC, turning off iGPU allows more OC.

 

Balls to the balls!

Why tho the GPU is basically dead weight I dont game also sorry for the typo

[Bob__]

4 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Gee, and I posted about why it does that.

@Bob__get a contact frame (GN has reviewed them) and you'll knock quite a few degrees off your temps and stabilize clocks better. That's your solution, not throwing more cooler at the cpu right off the bat.

anything more extreme other than that?

[AlwaysFSX]

3 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

anything more extreme other than that?

It's really the only solution to 13th gen's heat. You can go for a 560mm water cooler but you'll still end up running in to heat issues because of how poorly the heat spread can move heat to your cooler.

The NH-D15 is a fantastic cooler, the problem is the Intel Loading Mechanism.

[spaghet rat]

1 minute ago, AlwaysFSX said:

It's really the only solution to 13th gen's heat. You can go for a 560mm water cooler but you'll still end up running in to heat issues because of how poorly the heat spread can move heat to your cooler.

The NH-D15 is a fantastic cooler, the problem is the Intel Loading Mechanism.

what is 560 mm bro do u mean 360 mm

[Bob__]

Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

It's really the only solution to 13th gen's heat. You can go for a 560mm water cooler but you'll still end up running in to heat issues because of how poorly the heat spread can move heat to your cooler.

The NH-D15 is a fantastic cooler, the problem is the Intel Loading Mechanism.

how about delidding heard some crazy claims about that but also dont want to test it on my chip if it is BS

[AlwaysFSX]

1 minute ago, McrP87 said:

what is 560 mm bro do u mean 360 mm

Off to Google we go!

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/560mm/15236/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-560mm-radiator

560mm radiators exist.

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

how about delidding heard some crazy claims about that but also dont want to test it on my chip if it is BS

Not worth it, just spend the $5 and get a contact frame.

[Bob__]

Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

Off to Google we go!

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/560mm/15236/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-560mm-radiator

560mm radiators exist.

Not worth it, just spend the $5 and get a contact frame.

by delidding i mean copper IHS dont know if that was clear also holy shit what kind of case are you running that supports that

[spaghet rat]

1 minute ago, AlwaysFSX said:

560mm radiators exist.

damn

[AlwaysFSX]

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

by delidding i mean copper IHS dont know if that was clear also holy shit what kind of case are you running that supports that

In the order of things that you should try to improve temps it's:
Contact frame > lapping the IHS > replacing the IHS (but if you're going this far...) > direct die cooling

Anything extreme like this for cooling shouldn't be done unless you really know what you're doing.

1 minute ago, McrP87 said:

damn

Yeah there's a lot more to cooling than just throwing an aio at a part.

[Bob__]

16 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Anything extreme like this for cooling shouldn't be done unless you really know what you're doing.

19 minutes ago, McrP87 said:

I dont but dont they make guides and stuff?

[Bob__]

39 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

In the order of things that you should try to improve temps it's:
Contact frame > lapping the IHS > replacing the IHS (but if you're going this far...) > direct die cooling

Anything extreme like this for cooling shouldn't be done unless you really know what you're doing.

Yeah there's a lot more to cooling than just throwing an aio at a part.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Bearing-NF-A14-iPPC-3000-PWM/dp/B00KFCRF1A/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_w=lFm9o&content-id=amzn1.sym.116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_p=116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_r=PEMQAZQ9KHQTTJH9BYX6&pd_rd_wg=6mLoz&pd_rd_r=30c2febb-08b8-4ed3-a439-c0cc60b45abd&pd_rd_i=B00KFCRF1A&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F12-iPPC-3000-PWM/dp/B00KFCRATC

what kinf of a difference would these make

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, AlwaysFSX said:

...than an NH-D15? The air cooler that has competed with water coolers for almost a decade?

If you think the NH-D15 can beat a 360mm from Arctic, you may be incorrect.

[AlwaysFSX]

8 hours ago, Dedayog said:

If you think the NH-D15 can beat a 360mm from Arctic, you may be incorrect.

Hm, I'd love to see where I wrote specifically that.

[Bob__]

21 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Hm, I'd love to see where I wrote specifically that.

lol also yeah this thing is a beast but ive seen marginally better from big ass AIOs but the solution from what I can see is just a custom loop and a contact frame and some other shit that normally should not have to be done. THANKS INTEL

[Dedayog]

59 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Hm, I'd love to see where I wrote specifically that.

You wrote this actually in response to my comment:

 

  11 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Might provide some benefit in conjunction with a better cooler.

 

 

...than an NH-D15? The air cooler that has competed with water coolers for almost a decade?

 

So why would you comment like that, that the NH-D15 is as good as water coolers, implying that the 360mm I suggested was a bad idea and that the NH-D15 is as good as a 360mm AIO.

 

The 360mm, which I suggested a few, are infact better than (a good bit better) the NH-D15.  Deepcool, Arctic, and EK all make 360's that are better than any air cooler, even with upgraded Noctua fans.

 

And yes, PROPER case airflow, a 360mm AIO.... AND... a contact frame (per your suggestion) are all ways to improve your cooling of said CPU.  

 

[AlwaysFSX]

3 hours ago, Dedayog said:

You wrote this actually in response to my comment:

 

  11 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Might provide some benefit in conjunction with a better cooler.

 

 

...than an NH-D15? The air cooler that has competed with water coolers for almost a decade?

 

So why would you comment like that, that the NH-D15 is as good as water coolers, implying that the 360mm I suggested was a bad idea and that the NH-D15 is as good as a 360mm AIO.

 

The 360mm, which I suggested a few, are infact better than (a good bit better) the NH-D15.  Deepcool, Arctic, and EK all make 360's that are better than any air cooler, even with upgraded Noctua fans.

 

And yes, PROPER case airflow, a 360mm AIO.... AND... a contact frame (per your suggestion) are all ways to improve your cooling of said CPU.  

 

Problem with this is it makes out the D15 like it's incapable of cooling 13th gen.

It's perfectly capable of it, the problem isn't the cooler.

[Bob__]

6 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Problem with this is it makes out the D15 like it's incapable of cooling 13th gen.

It's perfectly capable of it, the problem isn't the cooler.

Also the OC will add to that. 

[filpo]

Bros angry that his overclock is throttling like that’s not what’s supposed to happen

[Bob__]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

Bros angry that his overclock is throttling like that’s not what’s supposed to happen

No im mad at Intek for making a shit IHS

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

No im mad at Intek for making a shit IHS

Ye ik just a joke bro lol