New owner of MSI Vector GP66HX - Question

[SchoolOf117]

Hello! This is my first forum post here, and I love watching LTT videos on youtube and I have for a long time!

 

Anyway, I am the proud of owner of a new MSI Laptop. It's the i7 12800HX & RTX 3070 Ti with DDR5 Ram (4800)

 

I have it on a cooling pad, and Highest temp in afterburner is 77C in Halo Infinite campaign over world on high settings. MCC = 66C, MW2 = 69 Idle = 39-41. My question is, I've read A LOT about undervolting and people talk about it like it's an absolute necessity. Is it? I feel like if it was so important, they would send it that way from the factory. So that's my question. Is undervolting your gaming laptop something everyone should do no matter what? Or is it only if your laptop is having performance / cooling issues. 

 

Please let me know what you guys think. 

[Hinjima]

12 minutes ago, SchoolOf117 said:

Hello! This is my first forum post here, and I love watching LTT videos on youtube and I have for a long time!

 

Anyway, I am the proud of owner of a new MSI Laptop. It's the i7 12800HX & RTX 3070 Ti with DDR5 Ram (4800)

 

I have it on a cooling pad, and Highest temp in afterburner is 77C in Halo Infinite campaign over world on high settings. MCC = 66C, MW2 = 69 Idle = 39-41. My question is, I've read A LOT about undervolting and people talk about it like it's an absolute necessity. Is it? I feel like if it was so important, they would send it that way from the factory. So that's my question. Is undervolting your gaming laptop something everyone should do no matter what? Or is it only if your laptop is having performance / cooling issues. 

 

Please let me know what you guys think. 

77c is completely fine.  Bit high for a desktop perhaps but for a Laptops I would call that acceptable.   No need to undervolt as its not being thermal limited so far.

[VioDuskar]

50 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

77c is completely fine.  Bit high for a desktop perhaps but for a Laptops I would call that acceptable.   No need to undervolt as its not being thermal limited so far.

I agree, as long as you're not burning yourself, then anything that isn't thermal throttle is good. 

[Dukesilver27-]

It's not a necessity per se, but it would be a lot better if you do.

You reduce power draw therefore thermal output while maintaining the same performance, there's literally no down side. So why won't you do it?

The reason why manufacturers don't do it is because they would need to manually tune it on each device, they sell them by the container, how much time do they need to manually tune each device?

Undervolt like overclocking are different for each chip due to silicone lottery, especially in laptops. It's possible that they have pre-tuned chips for this specific model, but it would only be a base line tuning, so the results won't be as good.

 

[Qyygle]

Unvolting is useful, but since the 8th gen Intel chips you're probably locked out of being able to do so, unless the laptop manufacturer includes it in the bios or their control software.

Intel addressed a ton of security issues by simply locking down voltage controls past the 8th gen chips. If the laptop manufacturers are directly following those mitigation in firmware/BIOS, Throttlestop and Intel XTU won't work.

 

That aside, your temps are fine. Is the cooling pad too loud for your taste or are you thinking you've left performance on the table here? With temps in the 70's your CPU should be fully boosting regardless, so you're not gaining more headroom with an undervolt. It would only be fan-noise that you could address with an undervolt, but with a cooling pad, that's probably louder than your laptop fans anyway. 

[SchoolOf117]

Thanks for the replies. In Halo Infinite, it stays around 77 without cooler boost. With cooler boost, It stays around 65. Yeah my temps are fine, I was just curious as to why undervolting was promoted so much! Also, I have the 12800HX CPU and therefor it in unlocked to OC and UV.