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16 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Anyone checked this out yet on the latest driver ? I would but it’s currently not supported on 2000 series 

What feature are you referring too? AFAIK there isn't DLSS for video playback.

Are you referring to the new AI Upscaling feature for video playback? RTX Video Super Resolution?

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Yep, tried it and it's pretty nice, e.g. this on 480p video:

 

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Tried on old low res videos and while it doesn't necessarily increase sharpness if it was too poor in the first place it cleans up compression noise/blockiness quite a bit (can see above in the black area on the right).

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13 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

What feature are you referring too? AFAIK there isn't DLSS for video playback.

Are you referring to the new AI Upscaling feature for video playback? RTX Video Super Resolution?

Whatever it is they mentioned that runs on the tensor cores to make video playback better 

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5 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Yep, tried it and it's pretty nice, e.g. this on 480p video:

 

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Tried on old low res videos and while it doesn't necessarily increase sharpness if it was too poor in the first place it cleans up compression noise/blockiness quite a bit (can see above in the black area on the right).

Nice man ! Can’t wait for it to come to streaming that will be huge 

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10 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Yep, tried it and it's pretty nice, e.g. this on 480p video:

 

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Tried on old low res videos and while it doesn't necessarily increase sharpness if it was too poor in the first place it cleans up compression noise/blockiness quite a bit (can see above in the black area on the right).

Hope there will be a VLC plugin for this eventually. I don't watch videos in-browser

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Me either usually but then I remembered I have a Jellyfin instance so I can play them in browser, and it works fine with it

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On 3/1/2023 at 11:28 AM, Ebony Falcon said:

Whatever it is they mentioned that runs on the tensor cores to make video playback better 

I'm positive that's what you're referring to.

 

Yeah, it works pretty well in supported browsers as far as I can tell with it only being out for a day or two and not having a whole lot of experience with it yet, it's pretty cool actually, no real performance hit(I do however run a 13900k and 4090 so it may not be as good on lower end hardware) and it definitely improves image quality on 360p and 480p video. I don't do a whole lot of in-browser video watching outside of YouTube so having it work in media player apps would be really cool feature they could add and would be more beneficial to me personally. 

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There is a MPC-HC renderer but serious question, if you don't watch video's in a browser how do you view them? (assuming we're talking about desktop PC's here). 

 

@Ebony Falconwhat you're referring to is RTX Video Super Resolution and the official FAQ is here: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5448

 

My personal experience last night is I could only get it to even function on Twitch VOD's. Anything on youtube even the crappy quality 720p/1080p stuff I wanted it for it just wouldn't activate. Twitch live also wouldn't trigger it. ALL the latest versions of everything with a 3090FE. 

 

At one point on Quality 4 playing back a Twitch VOD, I saw 340W and 1950Mhz on my 3090. Yeah you really gotta be careful with that quality setting if you don't need it.

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I've only tried youtube and jellyfin with 360p/480p sources but even on 4 it only bumped my 3080 from about 50W idle to 55.

 

1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

if you don't watch video's in a browser how do you view them?

Well, watching locally stored videos with whatever media player...

 

1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Seems to work!

 

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3 hours ago, Kilrah said:

I've only tried youtube and jellyfin with 360p/480p sources but even on 4 it only bumped my 3080 from about 50W idle to 55.

 

Well, watching locally stored videos with whatever media player...

 

Seems to work!

 

Ok lol for some reason I thought people were somehow watching youtube through VLC for some reason and was very confused. 

 

That being said I seem to have got it working in Chrome. An incognito mode tab showed everything working as expected so it was an extension. Started disabling one by one and for some reason the Google Docs offline extension was the culprit, at least it started working after removing it from Chrome. 

 

Can I just say its hilarious that on a 3090, the Quality 4 setting will result in this. 

 

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I installed the driver with my RTX 3080, I have a 27" 1440p display, I sit ~2 feet away.

 

Nvidia Control Panel > Adjust video image settings > "RTX Video Enhancement", and I set it to 1 (out of 4).

 

GPU utilization was no more than 6%, usually less.

 

I tried this with Hulu because I have been annoyed with their resolution lock on PC streaming of 720p (regardless of browser vs app).

The Video Enhancement gets rid of a ton of artifacts from the lower resolution and compression - Like closeups of people's faces can show pores clearly, and I don't yet see a need to set quality any higher than 1.

 

Unfortunately, I can't seem to take screenshots to show the difference, presumably because of HDCP or something like that.

 

EDIT: I need to add that with the specific movie I tested with "Intersect", I could notice a Screen Door Effect of sorts sometimes when something of a single color (a person or large object) had slight to moderate movement.  Its not annoying to me, but I'm also not a cinephile either.

I'm trying this again with the pilot with a different show named "The First", and so far with its pilot the SDE is either minimal or non-existent. I can't rule out that it could have something to do with how the source material was digitized given that "Intersect" is more of an indie film and "The First" is a bigger budget Hulu original series, even if Intersect didn't have any obvious signs of more native artifacts than The First.

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10 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Can I just say its hilarious that on a 3090, the Quality 4 setting will result in this. 

Seems to depend a lot on input resolution and viewport size.

Running it on 480p content at a resonable size was 5W, but on 1080P content fullscreened on a 4K monitor it's 150W.

Don't really see the point of using it on 1080 or more so doesn't matter much, but it means you probably don't want to just leave it on all the time...

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