Can you Pair Ryzen 7 5800x3D with Asus Prime B450M-A II ?

[Cjz]

I have Asus B450M-A II with Ryzen 5 5600. Currently running fine but i kinda want to upgrade the cpu to Ryzen 7 5800x3D without spending money on motherboard. if i can is it possible to do ? I dont planning on doing any overclock i problaby enable eco mode and let ryzen master find curve with cureoptimizer or whatever its called :D. With my Ryzen 5 5600 its clocked at 4550mhz and with ryzen master stress test i hit the max 76c with Darkflash twister 240mm aio liquid cooler in games its sits around 55-62 max doesnt go above 62.(I dont usually do cpu heavy staff but i kinda want the extra cores and thread for future games)

My Specs:

Ryzen 5 5600 4.55Ghz

DarkFlash Twister DX240 240mm Liquid Cooler (On Top of the case as Exhaust fan)

Asus Prime B450-A II Motherboard

HyperX Fury 3200Mhz 2x8GB Ram

Palit RTX 3070 GamingPro

Silverstone Stirder Plus 700W 80+Bronze PSU

I dont know if any of you need this but my case is also DeepCool Matrexx 55 Mesh ADD-RGB 4F with 3 intake infront of the case and 1 exhaust fan on the back. I also use the CPU aio as exhaust on the top of the case 2x120mm Fans.

Under the post its my setup if anyone wondering what is airflow kinda looks like.

 

[Budget DIY]

6 minutes ago, Cjz said:

(I dont usually do cpu heavy staff but i kinda want the extra cores and thread for future games)

Maybe don't upgrade yet? Wait for future-lower-prices, or even buy future-used?

[Cjz]

Just now, Budget DIY said:

Maybe don't upgrade yet? Wait for future-lower-prices, or even buy future-used?

I dont planning on upgrading right away i was curious if i upgrade it can i getaway with just cpu and not the motherboard bcuz if i have to upgrade the motherboard to i would just go for AM5 i think cuz in my country b550 with 5800x3d cost around 510$ (New) but AM5 with 7700X and Gigabyte B650M DS3H cost around 607$ yes its 100$ and i kinda have to sell my ddr4 rams to get ddr5 and put around 50$ or more money atleast it more future proof ? if go for 7600x however it would be around 414$ and lets just say that it would be 514$ with 2x8GB rams or i can give 50 more dolars 564$ total with 2x16GB DDR5 ram.

[Budget DIY]

I doubt you would really notice the benefits all that much. And it wouldn't be worth the moneys invested / FPS gained. (especially with that GPU?) Use this system until it can no longer do what you need it to do. And at that point, you'll be getting a much more economical gain by just replacing the thing.

 

This future-upgrade isn't something you should concern yourself with.

 

I myself have a lower spec-ed system. Much lower I think. In a few years, it might be worth it to me, to get a used GPU. I could probably also benefit from a 5800x3d. But I'm more likely to just replace to AM5/AM6 at that point.

[Cjz]

So should i just upgrade gpu in the future ? or ugprade the parts when am5 kinda cheap or atleast kinda good price ?

[Dukesilver27-]

Do you play in 1080p? If yes, 5800X3D could give a bit more fps, if you could sell your 5600 to buy the 5800X3D, I'd say it's an OK upgrade.

However, if you play in 1440p or 4K, CPU upgrade is meaningless.

As for the board, the VRM coolers are almost non existent, it's a very budget board, but there's a chance that the board could handle it.

If not, you could configure the top fans to be intakes, so there would be air blowing right at the VRMs to cool it off.

Also, 5800X3D is locked, it cannot be overclocked.

 

 

[SorryBella]

39 minutes ago, Cjz said:

i kinda want to upgrade the cpu to Ryzen 7 5800x3D without spending money on motherboard

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go used on it and pray that the VRM wont prematurely die or just use what exists to death. But i doubt youll get a good deals on 5800x3D considering how well it performs today as is (atleast just from scouring ebay right now, most are still at brand new or close to brand new price). For what it is, nothing to note and you should stick around and save up, while keeping eyes on very good deals that are actually real.

[mdk777]

Bios says yes.

No idea of how well, but should run.

 

 

[Cjz]

10 hours ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Do you play in 1080p? If yes, 5800X3D could give a bit more fps, if you could sell your 5600 to buy the 5800X3D, I'd say it's an OK upgrade.

However, if you play in 1440p or 4K, CPU upgrade is meaningless.

As for the board, the VRM coolers are almost non existent, it's a very budget board, but there's a chance that the board could handle it.

If not, you could configure the top fans to be intakes, so there would be air blowing right at the VRMs to cool it off.

Also, 5800X3D is locked, it cannot be overclocked.

 

 

Im playing on 1080p but i guess its not worth the upgrade for 5800x3d becasue i can buy a 1440p monitor almost same price as 5800x3d if not cheaper. Thank you for your input and suggestion.

[Cjz]

10 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

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go used on it and pray that the VRM wont prematurely die or just use what exists to death. But i doubt youll get a good deals on 5800x3D considering how well it performs today as is (atleast just from scouring ebay right now, most are still at brand new or close to brand new price). For what it is, nothing to note and you should stick around and save up, while keeping eyes on very good deals that are actually real.

I guess i will go for 1440p monitor deals rather than 5800x3d with good motherboards its much cheaper and i guess its more reasonable for me.

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48 minutes ago, Cjz said:

Im playing on 1080p but i guess its not worth the upgrade for 5800x3d becasue i can buy a 1440p monitor almost same price as 5800x3d if not cheaper. Thank you for your input and suggestion.

It really depends on the game, some games are very memory sensitive and 5800x3d will give you a shockingly high boost in frames where as others will be the same you get now, although overall even in games you don't see the avg fps go up you will notice they are much smoother as the 5800x3d will give much better one percent lows and any stutter you experience in game will all but disappear, idk where people get off saying its a 1080p chip, 1440 and 4k see benefits aswell though not as extreme, like in some games at 1080p will get 200 fps boost over what you were getting before but playing the same game, same settings but 4k might only be 15 - 40fps gain, which is still a healthy bump also considering the better 1% lows(which in itself 10 - 15fps bump on 1%lows can make a world of difference to some folks struggling with stutters/lag in certain game titles)

The only reason its a hard recommendation in your case is due to you already having a 5000 chip, meaning you already get decent frame time and mild stutter in games so the improvement you'll see "might" not be as dramatic vs a 2000 or 3000 chip (Game dependent)

And to answer your original question your b450 prime will be fine with this board just make sure the bios is updated 

[Cjz]

30 minutes ago, lotus10101 said:

It really depends on the game, some games are very memory sensitive and 5800x3d will give you a shockingly high boost in frames where as others will be the same you get now, although overall even in games you don't see the avg fps go up you will notice they are much smoother as the 5800x3d will give much better one percent lows and any stutter you experience in game will all but disappear, idk where people get off saying its a 1080p chip, 1440 and 4k see benefits aswell though not as extreme, like in some games at 1080p will get 200 fps boost over what you were getting before but playing the same game, same settings but 4k might only be 15 - 40fps gain, which is still a healthy bump also considering the better 1% lows(which in itself 10 - 15fps bump on 1%lows can make a world of difference to some folks struggling with stutters/lag in certain game titles)

The only reason its a hard recommendation in your case is due to you already having a 5000 chip, meaning you already get decent frame time and mild stutter in games so the improvement you'll see "might" not be as dramatic vs a 2000 or 3000 chip (Game dependent)

And to answer your original question your b450 prime will be fine with this board just make sure the bios is updated 

if you dont mind if you were in my position would you upgrade your monitor to 1440p ? or upgrade your cpu to 5800x3d ? its same price point 5800x3d. 1440p monitors around  370-300$ while 5800x3d 390$. PS: i already have somewhat decent 1080p 165hz monitor its Asus TUF Gaming VG247Q1A

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1 hour ago, Cjz said:

if you dont mind if you were in my position would you upgrade your monitor to 1440p ? or upgrade your cpu to 5800x3d ? its same price point 5800x3d. 1440p monitors around  370-300$ while 5800x3d 390$. PS: i already have somewhat decent 1080p 165hz monitor its Asus TUF Gaming VG247Q1A

Mmm it would depend, I'm not the type to upgrade/replace if I don't have a need, I was in a similar upgrade dilemma your in, I went with the 5800x3d in the end because of issues with frame drops, and stutter, upgrading my 1080p monitor to a 1440p equivalent would be more of a nice to have but not a huge upgrade in image quality for me, Upgrading my GPU would improve my performance also but I would get close to the cap of what my 3700x could keep up with and possibly not have helped with the frame drops, maybe even made it worse if my old CPU couldn't keep up(so my 3700x was the weak point)

  The next thing would be have you tried playing on a system with a 1440p monitor? was it a huge image quality improvement to your eyes? 

is the 1440p your looking at have other technology upgrade or is it just a resolution bump? like are you going from regular ips/Va/whatev 1080p to regular 1440? or are we talking going from regular  1080p to a Quantum dot and/or Oled 1440p which is a whole different story

[Cjz]

7 minutes ago, lotus10101 said:

Mmm it would depend, I'm not the type to upgrade/replace if I don't have a need, I was in a similar upgrade dilemma your in, I went with the 5800x3d in the end because of issues with frame drops, and stutter, upgrading my 1080p monitor to a 1440p equivalent would be more of a nice to have but not a huge upgrade in image quality for me, Upgrading my GPU would improve my performance also but I would get close to the cap of what my 3700x could keep up with and possibly not have helped with the frame drops, maybe even made it worse if my old CPU couldn't keep up(so my 3700x was the weak point)

  The next thing would be have you tried playing on a system with a 1440p monitor? was it a huge image quality improvement to your eyes? 

is the 1440p your looking at have other technology upgrade or is it just a resolution bump? like are you going from regular ips/Va/whatev 1080p to regular 1440? or are we talking going from regular  1080p to a Quantum dot and/or Oled 1440p which is a whole different story

tbh i dont know what type of panel they using in the monitor i look but its either Samsung Odyssey G5 or 2k asus tuf monitor which both are VA. Im also using asus 1080p VA panel monitor so its problaby gonna just the res change i also dont know because i never use 2k monitor.

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56 minutes ago, Cjz said:

tbh i dont know what type of panel they using in the monitor i look but its either Samsung Odyssey G5 or 2k asus tuf monitor which both are VA. Im also using asus 1080p VA panel monitor so its problaby gonna just the res change i also dont know because i never use 2k monitor.

Between those id choose to go with the Samsung because G5 WQHD is Qled , its the same responsiveness your used to at 1440p but most of all its quantum dot which it'll produce much wider color pallet than your used to, old games you play would look new, that would be the direction I go

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32 minutes ago, lotus10101 said:

Between those id choose to go with the Samsung because G5 WQHD is Qled , its the same responsiveness your used to at 1440p but most of all its quantum dot which it'll produce much wider color pallet than your used to, old games you play would look new, that would be the direction I go

okay i will go for samsung g5 instead of 5800x3d thank you for your replies