::::::VOTE:::::: Intel or AMD: In Your Opinion, Which is Better: i9-13900k vs Ryzen 9 7950x?

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5022vs5031/Intel-i9-13900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X

NOTE: AMDs TDP is only higher when not boosting. When boosting, the TDP is different. See these articles:

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-9-7950x.c2846

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-13900k.c2817

[somerandomweirdo]

why LGA-1151 and not LGA-1700

cuz both (not including Epic, threadripper, and xeon) now use LGA-1700 and does this include 12th gen and under?

  

Edited December 16, 2022 by somerandomweirdo

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

1 minute ago, somerandomweirdo said:

why LGA-1151 and not LGA-1700

 

What do you mean?

[Dedayog]

Seriously this is asked weekly.  Doesn't matter.

[Middcore]

No. This is dumb, and the opinion of anybody who would be willing to give such a simplistic answer isn't worth anything.

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

Just now, Middcore said:

No. This is dumb, and the opinion of anybody who would be willing to give such a simplistic answer isn't worth anything.

How can I improve my poll? What would you recommend? I'm always open to learning!

[Dedayog]

Just now, Middcore said:

No. This is dumb, and the opinion of anybody who would be willing to give such a simplistic answer isn't worth anything.

Agreed.  Polls can stop anytime.

[Dedayog]

7 minutes ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

How can I improve my poll? What would you recommend? I'm always open to learning!

Don't just ask a simple A or B, then expect people to explain things.  Read the forums, follow Youtube videos, etc.  Learn by doing research.  Asking questions is nice, but do so for clarity.

 

Not just which is better.   That doesn't tell anything.

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Don't just ask a simple A or B, then expect people to explain things.  Read the forums, follow Youtube videos, etc.  Learn by doing research.  Asking questions is nice, but do so for clarity.

 

Not just which is better.   That doesn't tell anything.

I figured I'd get the majority of tech-smart peoples opinion. That is all this poll is meant to be. This poll doesn't decide anything, it is not meant to compare every scenario or every pro and con. 

[infigo]

They are staggered. If i build today. Intel is probably the winner....depening how much I care about heat and thermal. Wait until after CES with x3d variants and AMD is on top....but more expensive. Then wait until after summer and intel is again on top but at that point amd is cheeper again. 

It is a wonderfull time we are in where both teams have great option and we can prioritize what is important to us....or just don't care because both are good and which one have the edge is just a matter of when you buy it. 

 

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

2 minutes ago, infigo said:

They are staggered. If i build today. Intel is probably the winner....depening how much I care about heat and thermal. Wait until after CES with x3d variants and AMD is on top....but more expensive. Then wait until after summer and intel is again on top but at that point amd is cheeper again. 

It is a wonderfull time we are in where both teams have great option and we can prioritize what is important to us....or just don't care because both are good and which one have the edge is just a matter of when you buy it. 

 

I figured I'd get the majority of tech-smart peoples opinion. That is all this poll is meant to be. This poll doesn't decide anything, it is not meant to compare every scenario or every pro and con. 

[infigo]

1 minute ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

I figured I'd get the majority of tech-smart peoples opinion. That is all this poll is meant to be. This poll doesn't decide anything, it is not meant to compare every scenario or every pro and con. 

But it did actually represent it quite good. People think amd is better on thremals and power right now and it was a 50/50 split on both performance and price (now favoring amd more which is actually a bit supprising, thought intel would have the edge). Which is all good

[porina]

For starters you can learn what TDP means. Hint: it isn't power consumption.

 

The questions I'd find impossible to answer as it depends on interpretation and will vary throughout the CPU ranges, as well as a ton of other factors. You might as well ask if a red car is better than a blue car.

[Dedayog]

11 minutes ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

I figured I'd get the majority of tech-smart peoples opinion. That is all this poll is meant to be. This poll doesn't decide anything, it is not meant to compare every scenario or every pro and con. 

 

9 minutes ago, infigo said:

But it did actually represent it quite good. People think amd is better on thremals and power right now and it was a 50/50 split on both performance and price (now favoring amd more which is actually a bit supprising, thought intel would have the edge). Which is all good

These ARE considerations.  ANytime you qualify or caveat a poll, you're taking them into account and making the poll question invalid.

 

This is just a bad way to go about it.

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

10 minutes ago, porina said:

For starters you can learn what TDP means. Hint: it isn't power consumption.

 

The questions I'd find impossible to answer as it depends on interpretation and will vary throughout the CPU ranges, as well as a ton of other factors. You might as well ask if a red car is better than a blue car.

I figured I'd get the majority of tech-smart peoples opinion. That is all this poll is meant to be. This poll doesn't decide anything, it is not meant to compare every scenario or every pro and con. 

[porina]

4 minutes ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

I figured I'd get the majority of tech-smart peoples opinion. That is all this poll is meant to be. This poll doesn't decide anything, it is not meant to compare every scenario or every pro and con. 

It's hard to give a good answer to a bad question if the respondent is left wondering about intent.

 

For example, you say "high end CPUs non-server". Do you mean the current high end? The current generation in general? Specifically 13900k vs 7950X? In that case, say so! Not Intel vs AMD, which you could argue would include Threadripper Pro. They're not server either, and are certainly high end.

[steelo]

Such a vague question. 

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

8 minutes ago, steelo said:

Such a vague question. 

I fixed the question.

[steelo]

14 minutes ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

I fixed the question.

Hope I didn't sound rude...I didn't mean to. To answer your question, I believe Intel holds the upper hand with the very high end CPU market. However, in my experience, AMD (usually) provides a better value in the low-mid range market. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong...

[My_Computer_Is_Trash]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Hope I didn't sound rude...re-read my post and didn't mean to. To answer your question, I believe Intel holds the upper hand with the very high end CPU market. However, in my experience, AMD (usually) provides a better value in the low-mid range market. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong...

Not rude at all, in fact, you are one of the nicest people I've met on the forums!  

Good to know not everybody toxic.

[Ultraforce]

I can't say what is better or worse, but I can say that I went AMD because 16 normal cores is likely to be easier to work with for virtualisation then 8 performance cores and 16 efficiency cores.

The motherboard officially supporting an eco-mode was also a factor because I wanted to use an air cooler and make sure it lasts a while.

[LogicalDrm]

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