Posted November 7, 2022 Hey all, I'm currently going to be building a new gaming rig this month and I've done extensive looking around. Stuck between going with the new 13600k or 7600x. I'm leaning towards going with a 6950 XT GPU as its near 3090 performance and is the price of a 3080 currently(~$800). A long with this, I'll be on a 1440p 144hz monitor. I know the biggest hurdle is the cost, going with the 7600k I'll need to go with ddr5 and that is super pricey currently. However, newegg has some offers that include a 16gb ddr5 stick free with specific motherboards($220 mobo). Mind you, its slow ddr5.. but its something to get started on. Thinking on going AM5 just as I could potentially upgrade my CPU later on without spending another ~$200 on a new motherboard. Going with 13600k, I can stick with DDR4. I already have two 8gb sticks of DDR4 I can grab out of a different pc we have, That would help. I have also seen 13600k has been beating the 7600x quite a bit. Smaller side question: Does the 7600x + 6950 XT benefit from SAM? Would that be something to consider as well? Kinda stuck on which I should lean towards. Anyone have any opinions? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 Just buy a used 6900XT for around 500$ or a 3080 for around the same price, as long as you dont buy from someone mining and mistreating it, youll be good. Ask questions to the seller to make sure and on EBAY you have buyer protection, so if they lie about condition youll be able to get your money back. 7600x and 7700X make 0 sense to buy at their current prices, dont buy them. The boards are still pretty damn expensive for what you are getting. Dont buy a 13600k if you are going to go DDR4, You can get 32 gb 6000 kits rn for around 180$. Honestly your 8700k is still plenty fine for your 1440p 144hz panel, even if you go 240hz youll still be fine. I dont see a huge benefit for you for now, but if you choose to do so, My Gaming and Editing Rig : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/500716-red-gaming-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 How long do you plan on using the system for?? If long term, like 4-5 years, going AM5 now would be a decent choice. CPU Cooler Tier List || Motherboard VRMs Tier List || Motherboard Beep & POST Codes || Graphics Card Tier List || PSU Tier List Main System Specifications: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X || CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Air Cooler || RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 || Mobo: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 || SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Boot Drive/Some Games) || HDD: 2X Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB(Game Drive) || GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming RX 6900XT || PSU: EVGA P2 1600W || Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero SE RGB || Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB with GX Blue Clicky Switches || Mouse Pad: MAINGEAR ASSIST XL || Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Squanchy said: that include a 16gb ddr5 stick free with specific motherboards($220 mobo). Mind you, its slow ddr5 Wait... not even dual channel? That's not just slow, it's also creating memory compatiblity issues... I prefer the 13600k, it's just too fast for 7600X to even compete at their respective prices. Do take DDR5 since you could use the kit for at least 6~7 years of upgrades. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 Author 2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: Wait... not even dual channel? That's not just slow, it's also creating memory compatiblity issues... I prefer the 13600k, it's just too fast for 7600X to even compete at their respective prices. Do take DDR5 since you could use the kit for at least 6~7 years of upgrades. Gotcha, So 13600k + DDR5 is your recommendation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Squanchy said: Gotcha, So 13600k + DDR5 is your recommendation? I think waiting until everything is cheaper was actually the recommendation. Router: Intel N100 (pfSense) WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz) WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz) Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~800Mbit down, 115Mbit up) Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 Author 4 minutes ago, Shimejii said: Just buy a used 6900XT for around 500$ or a 3080 for around the same price, as long as you dont buy from someone mining and mistreating it, youll be good. Ask questions to the seller to make sure and on EBAY you have buyer protection, so if they lie about condition youll be able to get your money back. 7600x and 7700X make 0 sense to buy at their current prices, dont buy them. The boards are still pretty damn expensive for what you are getting. Dont buy a 13600k if you are going to go DDR4, You can get 32 gb 6000 kits rn for around 180$. Honestly your 8700k is still plenty fine for your 1440p 144hz panel, even if you go 240hz youll still be fine. I dont see a huge benefit for you for now, but if you choose to do so, Apologize for my system on my account, that's been sold. Have a different AMD Budget PC, that's going to be the fiance's PC. I'd be robbing some memory out of that. Getting the consensus to go with 13600k and ddr5 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: Wait... not even dual channel? That's not just slow, it's also creating memory compatiblity issues... Technically all DDR5 is dual-channel, even a single stick. Although there does still seem to be benefits from using two sticks over a single one. Router: Intel N100 (pfSense) WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz) WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz) Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~800Mbit down, 115Mbit up) Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 Author 6 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said: How long do you plan on using the system for?? If long term, like 4-5 years, going AM5 now would be a decent choice. Yeah, Plan on using it 4-5 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Squanchy said: Apologize for my system on my account, that's been sold. Have a different AMD Budget PC, that's going to be the fiance's PC. I'd be robbing some memory out of that. Getting the consensus to go with 13600k and ddr5 then? In that case yeah. Router: Intel N100 (pfSense) WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz) WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz) Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~800Mbit down, 115Mbit up) Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Alex Atkin UK said: I think waiting until everything is cheaper was actually the recommendation. There's 0 reason for the 13600K to get cheaper, and not much chance of enough discount on the 7600X and AM5 boards to compete with it ! If you already have some DDR4, get a 13600K and a $200ish or less mobo and you'll see amazing performance gains even over a 8700K Don't go DDR5 now though, it's expensive for really not much more performance System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case / Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500 NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/ Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Squanchy said: Yeah, Plan on using it 4-5 years or so. Just got 13600K. It'll be plenty for those years. Going AM5 is going be costly...then a CPU upgrade and faster DDR5...just gonna be too much. CPU Cooler Tier List || Motherboard VRMs Tier List || Motherboard Beep & POST Codes || Graphics Card Tier List || PSU Tier List Main System Specifications: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X || CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Air Cooler || RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 || Mobo: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 || SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Boot Drive/Some Games) || HDD: 2X Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB(Game Drive) || GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming RX 6900XT || PSU: EVGA P2 1600W || Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow || Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero SE RGB || Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB with GX Blue Clicky Switches || Mouse Pad: MAINGEAR ASSIST XL || Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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