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I have a simple Ryzen 5600X build, and right now I have an rx 570 that I plan to upgrade later. I have a single exhaust fan, and a single 140mm intake fan. My CPU is only about 50c under moderate load, but my GPU gets up to 80c (messed up thermal paste application, fixing later). Should I switch to 2 120mm intake fans, or is my airflow fine right now? When I upgrade my gpu to a more power hungry card (like an rtx 3070), will it thermal throttle easily?

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Yes. Airflow is very important

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It gets exponentially more important with higher power components. With a 5600x and an RX 570, it doesn't really matter that much and you should be OK. If you go for something more along the lines of a 3080 and a 12700K, then it's a lot more important since you have to have a lot more air to exchange all that heat, and it's a good idea to have all the fans slots filled to the brim. 

 

You should be fine for now as long as your case isn't choked for intake, but if you want to upgrade the GPU, yeah you need more fans. 

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41 minutes ago, Xylight said:

I have a simple Ryzen 5600X build, and right now I have an rx 570 that I plan to upgrade later. I have a single exhaust fan, and a single 140mm intake fan. My CPU is only about 50c under moderate load, but my GPU gets up to 80c (messed up thermal paste application, fixing later). Should I switch to 2 120mm intake fans, or is my airflow fine right now? When I upgrade my gpu to a more power hungry card (like an rtx 3070), will it thermal throttle easily?

It is, but it depends.  Airflow importance is in line with heat generation which in turn is in line with performance.  The higher performance the more heat, the more important airlflow is.

 

If you run low performance parts, they generate low heat, airflow is ehh.  

 

You'll be fine, you're not rockling serious performance so you don't need really good airflow.   When you get the 3070, it'll need good air, so invest in a good case.

 

Good parts need good parts, why is that not a concept everyone understands?

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Just now, Dedayog said:

It is, but it depends.  Airflow importance is in line with heat generation which in turn is in line with performance.  The higher performance the more heat, the more important airlflow is.

 

If you run low performance parts, they generate low heat, airflow is ehh.  

 

You'll be fine, you're not rockling serious performance so you don't need really good airflow.   When you get the 3070, it'll need good air, so invest in a good case.

 

Good parts need good parts, why is that not a concept everyone understands?

It's a spec 05 so airflow isn't great from the front. I'll get some noctuas which will hopefully outweigh the questionable airflow

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5 hours ago, Xylight said:

It's a spec 05 so airflow isn't great from the front. I'll get some noctuas which will hopefully outweigh the questionable airflow

Dont get noctuas get some arctic p series fans. Way cheaper and perform almost as well as a noctua a series.

 

Not that it really matters the case is so choked for intake that 2 decent fans will basicallt max out the air intake easily

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7 hours ago, jaslion said:

Dont get noctuas get some arctic p series fans. Way cheaper and perform almost as well as a noctua a series.

 

Not that it really matters the case is so choked for intake that 2 decent fans will basicallt max out the air intake easily

Aren't p12s static pressure? Aren't they bad for intake?

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Haha Noctuna..

 

Because something about that price is fishy 😄

 

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32 minutes ago, Xylight said:

Aren't p12s static pressure? Aren't they bad for intake?

No they are excellent fans. Static pressure fans or generic airflow doesn't mean anything except for radiators. They'll both more air just the same in a case.

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