Looking for any recommended changes, and tips on building a PC

[campain2002]

Budget: $3500 (USD)

Country: USA (stationed overseas)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming at high settings, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Video editing

Other details : I'm upgrading from a gaming laptop with a Core i7-9750H,RTX 2060, and 16GB DDR4 RAM at 2664 MHz, my store got stocked with RTX 3080 ti's at MSRP so I decided to build a high-end PC around it (this is my first PC build)                                             

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFcsVw

 

[TylerD321]

The TDP of a 3080 ti is 350 watts, and an i9-12900k is around 250 watts. This alone is 600 watts. If you ever plan on overclocking you should probably get a 1000 watt power supply. Could you send a direct link of the parts list instead of just a screenshot?

[campain2002]

2 minutes ago, TylerD321 said:

The TDP of a 3080 ti is 350 watts, and an i9-12900k is around 250 watts. This alone is 600 watts. If you ever plan on overclocking you should probably get a 1000 watt power supply. Could you send a direct link of the parts list instead of just a screenshot?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6qyNY9

[ageemaa]

If you want to maximize on cpu cooling, why don't go with Noctua NH-D15 which has better performance and head room for Multicore Enhancement?

 

Also yeah you'll need at least 1000w gold certified power supply

[TylerD321]

It seems like there is a weird case and AIO combo selected in this parts list. Case can fit 360mm rad in the front and up to 280 on top. The case comes with RGB fans preinstalled in the front. It would be a pain to have to move the front fans around to get the AIO in.

[PDifolco]

You could save quite a lot of money for very close performance, with a 12700K on DDR4, a cheaper but better cooler, cheaper SSD, and then get a better case and PSU:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yjd7sL

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($377.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($158.04 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($137.56 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition Video Card 
Case: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($166.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($255.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1555.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-08 11:54 EDT-0400

 

 

 

[campain2002]

11 minutes ago, ageemaa said:

If you want to maximize on cpu cooling, why don't go with Noctua NH-D15 which has better performance and head room for Multicore Enhancement?

 

Also yeah you'll need at least 1000w gold certified power supply

Thanks for the recommendation, I edited my list to include the NH-D15 instead. I'll look into 1000W power supplies as well

[ageemaa]

12 minutes ago, campain2002 said:

Thanks for the recommendation, I edited my list to include the NH-D15 instead. I'll look into 1000W power supplies as well

yeah, keep in mind that NH-D15 is a fat boy and make sure it fits to your case choices.

[campain2002]

4 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

You could save quite a lot of money for very close performance, with a 12700K on DDR4, a cheaper but better cooler, cheaper SSD, and then get a better case and PSU:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yjd7sL

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($377.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($158.04 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($137.56 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Founders Edition Video Card 
Case: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($166.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($255.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1555.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-08 11:54 EDT-0400

 

 

 

The problem with an i7-12700k is that it would be a slight bottleneck for the 3080 ti at the resolution i'm running at, which i want to avoid as much as possible, and I wanted the faster SSD because of the amount of large video files that i'll be handling and editing. I did however update my list to include a better/cheaper cooling unit as well as your case and PSU so thank you for the reccomendations.

[Ryuikko]

33 minutes ago, campain2002 said:

The problem with an i7-12700k is that it would be a slight bottleneck for the 3080 ti at the resolution i'm running at, which i want to avoid as much as possible

What resolution are you playing at? I can guarantee that there won't be a bottle neck with those 2 components.

I'd also get a case with airflow like, the airflow variant of the Case you have.

 

[campain2002]

31 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

What resolution are you playing at? I can guarantee that there won't be a bottle neck with those 2 components.

I'd also get a case with airflow like, the airflow variant of the Case you have.

 

I personally don't use 4k because I far prefer higher hz over higher resolution and i don't discern much of a difference between FHD/QHD/UHD, also thank you for the recommendation of air flow, i'll look into that

[Tan3l6]

Spoiler

Nice calculations  

I found out my CPU-GPU has 0% bottleneck.

Why the 2048x1152 rez?

None of the pöpülär monitors have that. If any at all..

[campain2002]

that's just 2k resolution at 16:9 aspect ratio, which is what my monitor runs at

[Tan3l6]

Might I ask the monitor model?

As it seems to be true rarity. Most "2k" monitors are 2560x1440p

[Ryuikko]

19 minutes ago, campain2002 said:

personally don't use 4k because I far prefer higher hz over higher resolution and i don't discern much of a difference between FHD/QHD/UHD, also thank you for the recommendation of air flow, i'll look into that

Online "bottleneck" calculators are pretty much always wrong. You wouldn't see a reasonable bottleneck with a 12400f and 3090ti, let alone a 12700 and a 3080ti

[campain2002]

6 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Might I ask the monitor model?

alright so i found out that my previous statement was incorrect. the website automatically set the resolution to 2k, my monitor is the ASUS ROG Swift PG259QN. At the actual resolution the bottleneck is even bigger so i'm glad i found that out                              

[Tan3l6]

Ooh, at 1080p the CPU in this case is a limiting factor only if playing really competitively. And from 360Hz monitor it seems so.

Yet the 12700K is very capable CPU at 1080p.

[PDifolco]

13 minutes ago, campain2002 said:

alright so i found out that my previous statement was incorrect. the website automatically set the resolution to 2k, my monitor is the ASUS ROG Swift PG259QN. At the actual resolution the bottleneck is even bigger so i'm glad i found that out                              

Ok, but it's kinda dumb to get a 3080Ti for 1080p gaming... except if you're in a ranked esports team and have a 360Hz monitor

Because else sure you'd be limited by the CPU, but will have such high framerates that your monitor won't hold up and you won't neither see the difference ... 

Really you should upgrade to a good 1440p monitor with such a config

[campain2002]

25 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

Online "bottleneck" calculators are pretty much always wrong. You wouldn't see a reasonable bottleneck with a 12400f and 3090ti, let alone a 12700 and a 3080ti

 

21 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Ooh, at 1080p the CPU in this case is a limiting factor only if playing really competitively. And from 360Hz monitor it seems so.

Yet the 12700K is very capable CPU at 1080p.

Gaming itself isn't my sole reason for wanting the higher level processor, the higher amount of total physical cores and faster processing speed would greatly benefit Adobe Premier Pro (which is what I use), on top of the benefits of higher maximum frequency and larger cache size. It's also a big reason I wanted to go with the larger/faster amount of RAM than what would seem good for gaming.

[campain2002]

10 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Ok, but it's kinda dumb to get a 3080Ti for 1080p gaming... except if you're in a ranked esports team and have a 360Hz monitor

Because else sure you'd be limited by the CPU, but will have such high framerates that your monitor won't hold up and you won't neither see the difference ... 

Really you should upgrade to a good 1440p monitor with such a config

I'm planning on keeping my current monitor for the speed, and later getting a 4k monitor but i don't need it right at this moment. I'd rather get one when i'm actually back in the states, considering the higher cost of /4k monitors and the inconvenience of sending large tech intercontinentally. Also relating to my last reply, gaming isn't my sole reason for getting a new pc.

[PDifolco]

1 minute ago, campain2002 said:

 

Gaming itself isn't my sole reason for wanting the higher level processor, the higher amount of total physical cores and faster processing speed would greatly benefit Adobe Premier Pro (which I use), on top of the benefits of higher maximum frequency and larger cache size. It's also a big reason I wanted to go with the larger/faster amount of RAM than what would seem good for gaming.

Regarding productivity tasks, the 12900K is 20% faster on Cinebench r23 vs the 12700K, it's noticeable but not huge

As for RAM I agree you should get 32GB, but DDR5 is currently way too expensive for the very small gains in gaming, some games even run faster on DDR4, and DDR5 is only marginally better for memory intensive tasks

Tests here : 

 

IMO if you really prefer a 12900K get it but get a DDR4 mobo

[Tan3l6]

In the middle of next month the Zen 4 CPUs should launch by the way, making probably even 12900K obsolete. Though it only supporting DDR5 the RAM prices might get high.

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, campain2002 said:

alright so i found out that my previous statement was incorrect. the website automatically set the resolution to 2k, my monitor is the ASUS ROG Swift PG259QN. At the actual resolution the bottleneck is even bigger so i'm glad i found that out                              

Those websites are total nonsense.

[campain2002]

52 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Regarding productivity tasks, the 12900K is 20% faster on Cinebench r23 vs the 12700K, it's noticeable but not huge

As for RAM I agree you should get 32GB, but DDR5 is currently way too expensive for the very small gains in gaming, some games even run faster on DDR4, and DDR5 is only marginally better for memory intensive tasks

Tests here : 

 

IMO if you really prefer a 12900K get it but get a DDR4 mobo

Well, are there any top DDR4 motherboards/sticks that you would personally recommend for the build?

[Guest]

The 5800X3D would be a better option for MSFS2020. That particular game seems to benefit from the extra L3 cache.