three things i hate about steam deck

[tommyhawks]

1.lcd panel on gaming handheld console?that is pathetic. 

2.30 framerate gaming performance on low resolution panel is not acceptable.  

3.lack of hdr feature 

[LloydLynx]

Why is an LCD panel pathetic to you? 

The Steam Desk is not locked to 30FPS, and the hardware can push 60+ FPS in many games with appropriate settings.

HDR would massively raise the cost and complexity, and isn't supported in most games anyway. 

[Needfuldoer]

I hate that I haven't gotten mine yet.

[SimplyChunk]

35 minutes ago, tommyhawks said:

1.lcd panel on gaming handheld console?that is pathetic. 

2.30 framerate gaming performance on low resolution panel is not acceptable.  

3.lack of hdr feature 

How old are you??

[tommyhawks]

26 minutes ago, LloydLynx said:

Why is an LCD panel pathetic to you? 

The Steam Desk is not locked to 30FPS, and the hardware can push 60+ FPS in many games with appropriate settings.

HDR would massively raise the cost and complexity, and isn't supported in most games anyway. 

the responsive time of lcd is terrible compare to oled which is instant 

oled can feature inky black of dark scene but lcd can't

 

[Middcore]

33 minutes ago, tommyhawks said:

the responsive time of lcd is terrible compare to oled which is instant 

oled can feature inky black of dark scene but lcd can't

 

Wow why aren't all displays OLED yet this is a real thinker. I mean since there are no downsides at all. 

[Colty]

On 7/2/2022 at 9:49 AM, Middcore said:

Wow why aren't all displays OLED yet this is a real thinker. I mean since there are no downsides at all. 

Tests have been done on the Switch OLED, burn in isn't much of a problem. Same goes for the majority of modern OLED's. Hell, even the used first gen Vita I had for a bit had no signs of burn in. And that was an early OLED panel. 

Battery life should be better in some cases because pixels are individually lit.

The only real downside is cost, but there were sub $200 phones with OLED displays so it can't be too much of a cost difference. 

I'll admit, I'm not the target demographic for a Switch or Steam Deck, but if it was OLED, I'd be considering it. Right now, I'm waiting for a revised model with better ergonomics and an OLED display. The resolution, size, ect. can all stay the same, I just hate the way LCD/LED panels look. I grew up with CRT's and Plasma's so the grey "blacks" of typical displays is very annoying/obvious for me. 

[saintlouisbagels]

On 7/2/2022 at 10:42 AM, tommyhawks said:

the responsive time of lcd is terrible compare to oled which is instant 

oled can feature inky black of dark scene but lcd can't

 

1. LCD is not one type of display. It can be TN, IPS, or VA.

OLED may have fast response times compared to IPS or VA (and the gap is becoming smaller), but TN still has the fastest response time.

This is why TN panels are still used at multi-million dollar eSports events.

 

2. The Steamdeck is trying to reach a very low price point. Complaining that it doesn't have OLED because you want inky blacks is a stupid argument. This is a gaming portable PC meant to reach as many people as possible.

 

Edit: Misinformation

Edited July 20, 2022 by saint_louis_bagels
I'm wrong. OLED has faster response times.

[tommyhawks]

On 7/10/2022 at 9:32 AM, saint_louis_bagels said:

1. LCD is not one type of display. It can be TN, IPS, or VA.

OLED may have fast response times compared to IPS or VA (and the gap is becoming smaller), but TN still has the fastest response time.

This is why TN panels are still used at multi-million dollar eSports events.

 

2. The Steamdeck is trying to reach a very low price point. Complaining that it doesn't have OLED because you want inky blacks is a stupid argument. This is a gaming portable PC meant to reach as many people as possible.

any color accuracy tn you suggest?

[Roswell]

On 7/9/2022 at 9:32 PM, saint_louis_bagels said:

TN still has the fastest response time.

This is why TN panels are still used at multi-million dollar eSports events.

TN definitely doesn't have the fastest response time, not sure where you heard that.

 

OLED displays are in the tenths of a millisecond range for response, TN (regardless of questionable advertising) are always above 2 or 3 ms.

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/motion/motion-blur-and-response-time