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Is it my cpu or do I need a new cooler?

I have a i7 12700F my cooler is the cooler that it came with. For some reason whenever I play any game it reaches to 70-80C. I lowered the load line calibration in my bios from level 3 to 2, put the game in low-mid graphic settings lastly I even have 4 fans. 

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3 minutes ago, beastbo1 said:

my cooler is the cooler that it came with

 

3 minutes ago, beastbo1 said:

For some reason whenever I play any game it reaches to 70-80C

No sht sherlock

Stock coolers are designed to be just enough to keep your cpu cool and not much more, you can run upto 100c just fine actually cause thats tjmax

 

If youd like lower temps and/or quieter operation even a cheap 4 heatpipe tower like se 214/224xt should provide a noticable diff temps and sound wise

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24 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

 

No sht sherlock

Stock coolers are designed to be just enough to keep your cpu cool and not much more, you can run upto 100c just fine actually cause thats tjmax

 

If youd like lower temps and/or quieter operation even a cheap 4 heatpipe tower like se 214/224xt should provide a noticable diff temps and sound wise

This is the fault of Intel, not the user, so I think maybe you're being a little too hard on him.

 

OP, follow this guy's advice but don't beat yourself up over it.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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TV Gamer: i7-8700K 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX 5700XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Corsair 650M Vengeance 650w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

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Just now, Shimmy Gummi said:

This is the fault of Intel, not the user, so I think maybe you're being a little too hard on him.

 

OP, follow this guy's advice but don't beat yourself up over it.

literally nobody should expect the stock cooler to ever be good, the most recent actually good stock cooler was the wraith max/prism which was iirc for ryzen 3700x/3800x but good stock coolers (that pretty much dont warrant an aftermarket replacement) are mostly a thing of the past

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1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

literally nobody should expect the stock cooler to ever be good, the most recent actually good stock cooler was the wraith max/prism which was iirc for ryzen 3700x/3800x but good stock coolers (that pretty much dont warrant an aftermarket replacement) are mostly a thing of the past

That doesn't mean it's not Intel's fault for shipping their CPUs with e-waste.

 

Guy has one post. He's not the demographic who would know to use something different.

 

Hostility is kind of like gatekeeping the hardware world

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

That doesn't mean it's not Intel's fault for shipping their CPUs with e-waste.

 

Guy has one post. He's not the demographic who would know to use something different.

 

Hostility is kind of like gatekeeping the hardware world

Well if you are trying to get an introduction to pc hardware theres massive tech channels that review this kind of stuff so seems quite rare to not know that stock coolers are not good

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8 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

That doesn't mean it's not Intel's fault for shipping their CPUs with e-waste.

 

Guy has one post. He's not the demographic who would know to use something different.

 

Hostility is kind of like gatekeeping the hardware world

thx for the chill and nice reply

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Get a AK620 by deepcool.  Good cooler right there.  Check your case specifications for how big a cooler can fit in it and how much space your ram takes up too.  Better still, what case and ram do you have and I'll look it up for you bud.

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2 hours ago, beastbo1 said:

whenever I play any game it reaches to 70-80C

What is wrong with that? The maximum safe temperature for your Intel CPU is 100°C. Your temperatures are completely normal and completely safe. 

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134592/intel-core-i712700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

With temperatures like that, there is no point in spending money on a better cooler. An Intel CPU running at a cool 60°C is not going to perform any better than the same CPU running at 70°C or 80°C or even 90°C. It makes no difference.  

 

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1 hour ago, beastbo1 said:

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the cpu isn't gonna die unless it's 100C+, so it's up to you if/when you replace the cooler, consider it money saved.

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16 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

What is wrong with that? The maximum safe temperature for your Intel CPU is 100°C. Your temperatures are completely normal and completely safe. 

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134592/intel-core-i712700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

With temperatures like that, there is no point in spending money on a better cooler. An Intel CPU running at a cool 60°C is not going to perform any better than the same CPU running at 70°C or 80°C or even 90°C. It makes no difference.  

 

one reason could be noise. I run the stock cooler and even on my i3-10105F it gets a bit annoying while gaming. Could also unlock power limit with a better cooler for some real gains too, if they care about that.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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TV Gamer: i7-8700K 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX 5700XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Corsair 650M Vengeance 650w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

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Son's System: i7-8700 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // EVGA XC RTX 3060 // Corsair 275R Airflow // EVGA Supernova G5 650W Gold // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y PBiip / Dell P2417H // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350K // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: ASUS VG245H // Corsair K60 Pro SE // Logitech G203

 

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2 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

it gets a bit annoying while gaming

If my CPU was only running at 70°C to 80°C while gaming, I would go into the BIOS and I would slow the CPU fan down to reduce noise.

 

2 hours ago, beastbo1 said:

I even have 4 fans. 

I would also disable 3 or 4 of the case fans. 

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23 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

If my CPU was only running at 70°C to 80°C while gaming, I would go into the BIOS and I would slow the CPU fan down to reduce noise.

 

I would also disable 3 or 4 of the case fans. 

Yeah you can do that of course, but then again there are still gains to be had with better cooling. There are options. I spend less time in the BIOS on that computer (and I ahven't upgraded the cooler either lol) because it's hooked up to this wireless keyboard/mouse combo thing and I hate using it.

 

It is for just steam games on my living room TV with a controller

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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Wife's System: i9-9900K Stock // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3200 // ASUS KO RTX 3070 // Cooler Master Master Box NR400 ODD // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: LG Ultragear 27GL83A-B/AOC AGON AG241QX/ASUS VG248QE // Glorious GMMK TKL // Logitech G502 Hero // Corsair Void Pro RGB // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: i7-8700K 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX 5700XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Corsair 650M Vengeance 650w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV Gamer 2 - Resurrected: i5-11400F // ID COOLING SE-224-XT Black // MSI B560M-A PRO // 16GB (2x8) ADATA XPG DDR4 3200 // Power Color Fighter Radeon RX 6600 // NZXT S340 White // Deep Cool RF120x3 // EVGA 550 GA // 1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO // Display: 55" LG 4K TV // Wireless keyboard/touchpad // Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i7-8700 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // EVGA XC RTX 3060 // Corsair 275R Airflow // EVGA Supernova G5 650W Gold // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y PBiip / Dell P2417H // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350K // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: ASUS VG245H // Corsair K60 Pro SE // Logitech G203

 

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1 hour ago, JKRsega said:

Get a AK620 by deepcool.  Good cooler right there.  Check your case specifications for how big a cooler can fit in it and how much space your ram takes up too.  Better still, what case and ram do you have and I'll look it up for you bud.

I have a viking dagger case and 16gb 3200mhz ram

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What make and model is your ram please?

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18 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

there are still gains to be had with better cooling

That is true if you increase the turbo power limits. More power equals more heat so a better cooler might be required then. At default settings, the Intel OEM cooler is good enough.

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Just now, beastbo1 said:

I have a viking dagger case and 16gb 3200mhz ram

Do you have the instructions that came with your case as I can't find any details about cooler clearance at all.  For the cooler I recommended you need 160mm of clearance from your CPU to the side of the case.

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I just want to know also what air cpu coolers are good for 12th gen intel cpu

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7 minutes ago, beastbo1 said:

I just want to know also what air cpu coolers are good for 12th gen intel cpu

Out of all, this is the best I've seen but it's also the most expensive: Noctua D-Type Premium CPU Cooler, x 2 PWM Fans - Newegg.com

For something with a lower cost but can still be expected to do a good job of cooling: Noctua NH-D9L, Premium CPU Cooler with NF-A9 92mm Fan (Brown) - Newegg.com

And if you are on a tight budget, of course you can't expect the same performance as the above two but should still be better than a stock cooler at least: Thermaltake TOUGHAIR 110 140W TDP Top Flow CPU Cooler, Intel/AMD Universal Socket (LGA 1700/1200), 120mm 2000RPM High Static Pressure PWM Fan with High Performance Copper Heat Pipes LGA 1700 Ready - Newegg.com

All three of these should let it run cooler than a stock cooler, question is how much cooling are you looking for and what is your budget - Plus bear in mind a smaller case may not tolerate a larger sized cooler so well.

Lots of variables in play and also make sure you have good airflow through your case. If the heat can't get out no cooler of any kind will work well so be sure you have plenty of cool air coming in and warm air going out in the first place. The number of case fans alone in the case do not determine how well it's working, it's the actual result of it that matters and will tell you if it is working well or not.

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Everybody has their own opinions on cooling. I personally think water cooling AIO 240mm or 280mm is the way to go. If you want air cooling, start and stop with 120mm heatsinks. The 4 pipe coolers are the bottom and they go up to 6 pipe coolers and maybe beyond that. Usually they add a second 120mm fan. I would stick with a single fan setup. A 212+ variant. All are based on the original 120mm Thermalright 120mm cooler from more than 10 years ago. 

 

I have an intel build (Dell) that I put in a (Intel i5 10400) Ventroo V5 120mm with 5 heatpipes. I used it because it was a short 120mm and the only tower 120mm heatsink that would fit into the small case. Those have gone up in price but were $20-25 and now seem to be around $35. Deepcool as an ultra cheap gammaxx400 for $15 on Amazon. Usually I suggest the CoolerMaster 212+. The Noctua stuff is expensive and usually has the best cooling. 

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1 hour ago, Columbo said:

Everybody has their own opinions on cooling. I personally think water cooling AIO 240mm or 280mm is the way to go. If you want air cooling, start and stop with 120mm heatsinks. The 4 pipe coolers are the bottom and they go up to 6 pipe coolers and maybe beyond that. Usually they add a second 120mm fan. I would stick with a single fan setup. A 212+ variant. All are based on the original 120mm Thermalright 120mm cooler from more than 10 years ago. 

 

I have an intel build (Dell) that I put in a (Intel i5 10400) Ventroo V5 120mm with 6 heatpipes. I used it because it was a short 120mm and the only tower 120mm heatsink that would fit into the small case. Those have gone up in price but were $20-25 and now seem to be around $35. Deepcool as an ultra cheap gammaxx400 for $15 on Amazon. Usually I suggest the CoolerMaster 212+. The Noctua stuff is expensive and usually has the best cooling. 

I also like the cheap 120mm coolers; the ones you mentioned like the Ventroo, among ID-Cooling and whatnot, are just flat better values than the Cooler Master Hyper 212. I think that it used to be a decent budget cooler but of late it's just riding off the popularity and doesn't really compare to the other two I mentioned in price/performance.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

My System: i9-10900KF 5.1-5.3ghz @ 1.375v // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite AX // 32GB (4x8) Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR4 4000/CL18 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Glorious GMMK TKL // Logitech G502 Hero // Corsair Void Pro RGB

 

Wife's System: i9-9900K Stock // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3200 // ASUS KO RTX 3070 // Cooler Master Master Box NR400 ODD // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: LG Ultragear 27GL83A-B/AOC AGON AG241QX/ASUS VG248QE // Glorious GMMK TKL // Logitech G502 Hero // Corsair Void Pro RGB // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: i7-8700K 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX 5700XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Corsair 650M Vengeance 650w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV Gamer 2 - Resurrected: i5-11400F // ID COOLING SE-224-XT Black // MSI B560M-A PRO // 16GB (2x8) ADATA XPG DDR4 3200 // Power Color Fighter Radeon RX 6600 // NZXT S340 White // Deep Cool RF120x3 // EVGA 550 GA // 1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO // Display: 55" LG 4K TV // Wireless keyboard/touchpad // Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i7-8700 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // EVGA XC RTX 3060 // Corsair 275R Airflow // EVGA Supernova G5 650W Gold // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y PBiip / Dell P2417H // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350K // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: ASUS VG245H // Corsair K60 Pro SE // Logitech G203

 

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10 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I also like the cheap 120mm coolers; the ones you mentioned like the Ventroo, among ID-Cooling and whatnot, are just flat better values than the Cooler Master Hyper 212. I think that it used to be a decent budget cooler but of late it's just riding off the popularity and doesn't really compare to the other two I mentioned in price/performance.

The younger kids here all know the 212+. That is why I listed it. I still have a computer using the Ultra 120 on a kaby lake build. I bought an adapter kit for it for around $8 for it years ago. The Ventroo is a great little cooler. The 10400 never throttle and always runs at max speed and temps are under 70C under full load. I think in Prime 95 I got 75-76C on a max core after 40 minutes of testing. 

 

Here is the original 120mm. They still make the thermalright 120mm. This one has 6 heatpipes. It's hard to find. I am linking it just so that people can see what the original of the 120mm tower coolers looks like. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Columbo said:

The younger kids here all know the 212+. That is why I listed it. I still have a computer using the Ultra 120 on a kaby lake build. I bought an adapter kit for it for around $8 for it years ago. The Ventroo is a great little cooler. The 10400 never throttle and always runs at max speed and temps are under 70C under full load. I think in Prime 95 I got 75-76C on a max core after 40 minutes of testing. 

 

Here is the original 120mm. They still make the thermalright 120mm. This one has 6 heatpipes. It's hard to find. I am linking it just so that people can see what the original of the 120mm tower coolers looks like. 

 

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Up until the last 10 years or so, I never bothered with aftermarket coolers. Used whatever came with my CPUs like the guy in this thread. Worked perfectly fine for my uses back then.

 

 

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

My System: i9-10900KF 5.1-5.3ghz @ 1.375v // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite AX // 32GB (4x8) Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR4 4000/CL18 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Glorious GMMK TKL // Logitech G502 Hero // Corsair Void Pro RGB

 

Wife's System: i9-9900K Stock // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3200 // ASUS KO RTX 3070 // Cooler Master Master Box NR400 ODD // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: LG Ultragear 27GL83A-B/AOC AGON AG241QX/ASUS VG248QE // Glorious GMMK TKL // Logitech G502 Hero // Corsair Void Pro RGB // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: i7-8700K 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX 5700XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Corsair 650M Vengeance 650w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV Gamer 2 - Resurrected: i5-11400F // ID COOLING SE-224-XT Black // MSI B560M-A PRO // 16GB (2x8) ADATA XPG DDR4 3200 // Power Color Fighter Radeon RX 6600 // NZXT S340 White // Deep Cool RF120x3 // EVGA 550 GA // 1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO // Display: 55" LG 4K TV // Wireless keyboard/touchpad // Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i7-8700 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // EVGA XC RTX 3060 // Corsair 275R Airflow // EVGA Supernova G5 650W Gold // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y PBiip / Dell P2417H // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350K // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: ASUS VG245H // Corsair K60 Pro SE // Logitech G203

 

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I still have a Tt OCK Frio I won in a comp back in the day - Still works fine to this day.

There are cheaper coolers than Noctua out there but will still perform acceptably, you simply have to be picky about what you get.

Scythe makes good coolers for a fair price, considering what you get. I've got a couple of those and both work well and I didn't have to break the bank getting them.
If this would fit your board it's beefy enough to work and it's not as expensive as Noctua: https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0004-00093

Plenty of pipes for cooling and this one is even better, priced in a similar price range: https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0004-00092

All you'd need to do with one of these is be sure it fits the board/socket you have.

Zalman is another brand I have but these days they just aren't what they used to be, they made at one time a nice line of all copper coolers that worked great but since they've cheaped out and largely (If not completely) stopped making all copper coolers. I will say this cooler performs well and it's quiet, not very noticeable at all.

I did find one of these a few years ago for under $25 US and bought it directly from them through Newegg, this is the exact cooler I got: https://www.newegg.com/zalman-cnps9900aled/p/N82E16835118046R

Do know this cooler if you get one probrably won't work with your setup, these are for older sockets like my 1151/1155 setups and unless the holes are spaced the same as a 1151/1155 it won't work because you can't mount it.

There are a few that's VERY similar but have the same mounting system so unless you know it's gonna fit before you order, just don't and that really applies for any cooler - Always check to see if it's for the socket/board you have before ordering.

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