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Psu aging.. Should i replace psu?

Anjani
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+12v goes to 11.5 almost near to its lower limit of 11.4 this happens after  doing cpu and gpu intensive task whereas +5v goes to 5.250 v, upper limit of +5v. This happens mostly when I play bf5 which consumes 140w cpu Powe and 190w gpu power, otherwise all voltages stays around 11.952-12 v.. Should i change my psu? 

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27 minutes ago, Anjani said:

It is psu white.. It has been working fine from last 1 year...cooler master Masterwatt lite 700w

If it is a one year old PSU its not old enough to have any age related wear and tear even if used 24/7/365.

1 minute ago, Anjani said:

Because it is tier d psu... Can it fry my components and cause fire hazard? 

Not likely. I believe the voltage variances you are seeing are just normal operation.

No power supply available to consumers is going to be dead on 12v or 5v or etc... there is a level of acceptable tolerance in the voltages both above and below the spec. If you were a full volt above or under I would wonder a little but without the system acting up it wouldn't be grounds normally to replace the PSU.

 

I really don't think you have anything to worry about unless you go nuts and shove a 3090 Ti in your computer or some other ultra high powered component.

"The Codex Electronica does not support this overclock."

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2 minutes ago, Hybris5112 said:

If it is a one year old PSU its not old enough to have any age related wear and tear even if used 24/7/365.

Not likely. I believe the voltage variances you are seeing are just normal operation.

No power supply available to consumers is going to be dead on 12v or 5v or etc... there is a level of acceptable tolerance in the voltages both above and below the spec. If you were a full volt above or under I would wonder a little but without the system acting up it wouldn't be grounds normally to replace the PSU.

 

I really don't think you have anything to worry about unless you go nuts and shove a 3090 Ti in your computer or some other ultra high powered component.

I have rx 6700 xt and i7 11700.. I know I haven't have brought this cheap psu, but I didn't knew much about psus.. Also it is based on group topology or something like that.. Which is outdated and can shorter the lifespan of components.. Also I asked on reddit, many people are saying you should change your psu because it is cheap and tier d psu.. 

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7 minutes ago, Anjani said:

Because it is tier d psu... Can it fry my components and cause fire hazard? 

I don't think that list is conclusive in that sense. There are tens of millions of people running millions of psus which don't even make it to that list. If they automatically caused fires the world would be burning right now.

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1 minute ago, Anjani said:

I have rx 6700 xt and i7 11700.. I know I haven't have brought this cheap psu, but I didn't knew much about psus.. Also it is based on group topology or something like that.. Which is outdated and can shorter the lifespan of components 

Considering that AMD recommends a minimum 650W for the PSU you are still technically within spec and I am not familiar enough with the 11xxx series Intel CPUs to speak on their power draw. That said if you are this concerned over the PSU then I would start saving up for a replacement in 850-1000w range from a reputable manufacturer like Corsair.

 

However I want to stress that more than likely you don't need to worry about fire hazards or parts damage.

"The Codex Electronica does not support this overclock."

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1 hour ago, Anjani said:

It is psu white.. It has been working fine from last 1 year...cooler master Masterwatt lite 700w

Masterwatt Lite is one of the most garbage group regulated PSUs of a well known brand. Even for a group regulated PSU it has a very bad voltage regulation. Replace it!

 

It's in the 'replace it immidiately tier' for a reason.

11 minutes ago, Anjani said:

I checked it is not group but double forward topology.. Which is better than group topology 

It's double forward on the primary side and group regulation on the secondary.

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Those voltage readings are wrong. Ignore them.

To check your PSU voltages use a multimeter.

Intel specifies the PSU voltages should be within +- 5% of the rail's norm. E.g. 11.4V to 12.6V.

 

Here's a German review of your PSU. The only one I could find that also tests the protections.

Its voltage regulation is pretty bad, it is possible your voltages are going out of spec.

It's 12V OCP and OPP protections don't really work. It's got OTP but not implemented well.

 

The "group regulated" topology your hearing basically means it probably has poor voltage regulation in modern computers, which your PSU definitely does.

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7 hours ago, Rexper said:

Those voltage readings are wrong. Ignore them.

To check your PSU voltages use a multimeter.

Intel specifies the PSU voltages should be within +- 5% of the rail's norm. E.g. 11.4V to 12.6V.

 

Here's a German review of your PSU. The only one I could find that also tests the protections.

Its voltage regulation is pretty bad, it is possible your voltages are going out of spec.

It's 12V OCP and OPP protections don't really work. It's got OTP but not implemented well.

 

The "group regulated" topology your hearing basically means it probably has poor voltage regulation in modern computers, which your PSU definitely does.

So I am going to buy new psu on everybody recommendations... 

 

I thought msi mpg a gf models would be better.. Should i purchase it 

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24 minutes ago, Anjani said:

But it is too costly... What are the Dangers of using my existing power supply? 

budget and country/ shops you buy from? I can help you choose decent and budget friendly unit

I Use my knowledge as business owner and self taught technician aswell as an AI to help people. AI might be controversial but it actually works pretty well 90% of the time.

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19 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

budget and country/ shops you buy from? I can help you choose decent and budget friendly unit

India... I will be looking on various websites..  

 

Primary website is : https://mdcomputers.in/

 

1 usd =76rs.. Price will be in rs... To get in dollars divide it by 76

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what about this one? https://mdcomputers.in/corsair-cx650f-rgb-80-plus-bronze-fully-modular-cp-9020217-in.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC

I Use my knowledge as business owner and self taught technician aswell as an AI to help people. AI might be controversial but it actually works pretty well 90% of the time.

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https://mdcomputers.in/adata-xpg-core-reactor-650w-80-plus-gold-fully-modular.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC is a bit better and a bit more expensive than MSI A-GF.

https://mdcomputers.in/gigabyte-aorus-p750w-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-gp-ap750gm.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC is good too, comparable to the MSI.

https://mdcomputers.in/deepcool-pm650d.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC seems to be a decent budget friendly option.

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12 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

https://mdcomputers.in/adata-xpg-core-reactor-650w-80-plus-gold-fully-modular.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC is a bit better and a bit more expensive than MSI A-GF.

https://mdcomputers.in/gigabyte-aorus-p750w-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-gp-ap750gm.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC is good too, comparable to the MSI.

https://mdcomputers.in/deepcool-pm650d.html?sort=p.price&order=ASC seems to be a decent budget friendly option.

I don't trust deepcool in psu.. They have excellent coolers, but psu is not their thing.. Gigabyte psus explode... And at that price I would go for msi a gf.. Can you tell any other psu. Cooler master g700...? It is tier B I think

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5 minutes ago, Anjani said:

I don't trust deepcool in psu.. They have excellent coolers, but psu is not their thing.

They have some decent models. It's not what's written outside the box. It's about what's inside.

6 minutes ago, Anjani said:

Gigabyte psus explode

Aorus is good. Like I said: what's inside the box does matter.

7 minutes ago, Anjani said:

Cooler master g700...? It is tier B I think

B, low priority. Same as Deepcool PM-D

 

Corsair CX650F is your cheapest decent option if you don't want a Deepcool.

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7 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

They have some decent models. It's not what's written outside the box. It's about what's inside.

Aorus is good. Like I said: what's inside the box does matter.

B, low priority. Same as Deepcool PM-D

 

Corsair CX650F is your cheapest decent option if you don't want a Deepcool.

Tier B low priority means.. Is it enough power rx 6700 xt and overclocked i7 11700?

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8 minutes ago, Anjani said:

Tier B low priority means.

Low priority means that there are no reviews available and/or some light issues in partucular circumstances.

10 minutes ago, Anjani said:

Is it enough power rx 6700 xt and overclocked i7 11700?

Yes

 

You only can OC a non K CPU on some DDR5 motherboards. What brand and model motherboard do you have?

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14 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Low priority means that there are no reviews available and/or some light issues in partucular circumstances.

Yes

 

You only can OC a non K CPU on some DDR5 motherboards. What brand and model motherboard do you have?

Msi b560m bazooka... Now i only removed power limits.. That's why it consumes 140 w In cpu in battlefield 5..in other games cpu uses 70-90 w.. So should I buy g700 gold or invest in msi mpg a gf... That is the only model I am looking right now.. Regarding my specs what do you think? 

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1 minute ago, Anjani said:

Msi b560m bazooka

You can't OC the CPU on that MB.

1 minute ago, Anjani said:

Now i only removed power limits.

Removing powerlimits is not an OC.

2 minutes ago, Anjani said:

So should I buy g700 gold or invest in msi mpg a gf... That is the only model I am looking right now.. Regarding my specs what do you think? 

MSI

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