100TB in this TINY case

[MultiGamerClub]

hurr durr wasnt 100tb ree

[Needfuldoer]

20 minutes ago, alifarshad275 said:

so its through wifi, but doesn't require internet connection! wow! 

Correct. As long as your phone is connected to the same network as the NAS, you can access your files without using any of your Internet connection's bandwidth or data plan.

 

That's only if you want to access your NAS from outside your home network.

[ZDevilInside]

While it is nice to build your own NAS, there are significant advantages of devices such as Synology and Qnap.  The first is their "built-in" app capability called "packages".  If you don't know what I am talking about, take a look at this link:

 

Synology Packages

 

Another big advantage is their support - even if it is after warranty.  I had a volume crash on me, called up Synology support, and they helped me despite being out of warranty.  They were able to walk me through the things I needed to do quickly and recovered something I thought was long gone.  Amazing to say the least.

 

Finally, I love to build my own systems.  Despite that, I am going to say that sometimes it is a lot easier to just turn to someone else for what needs to  be done.  While I am a HP certified printer tech, I would rather let someone else deal with the mess of inkjet printers. 

[dogwitch]

4 hours ago, ZDevilInside said:

While it is nice to build your own NAS, there are significant advantages of devices such as Synology and Qnap.  The first is their "built-in" app capability called "packages".  If you don't know what I am talking about, take a look at this link:

 

Synology Packages

 

Another big advantage is their support - even if it is after warranty.  I had a volume crash on me, called up Synology support, and they helped me despite being out of warranty.  They were able to walk me through the things I needed to do quickly and recovered something I thought was long gone.  Amazing to say the least.

 

Finally, I love to build my own systems.  Despite that, I am going to say that sometimes it is a lot easier to just turn to someone else for what needs to  be done.  While I am a HP certified printer tech, I would rather let someone else deal with the mess of inkjet printers. 

i switch to them recently. qnap bad board and terrmaster poor os update....

[DaveFace]

11 hours ago, ZDevilInside said:

While it is nice to build your own NAS, there are significant advantages of devices such as Synology and Qnap.  The first is their "built-in" app capability called "packages".  If you don't know what I am talking about, take a look at this link:

 

Synology Packages

 

Another big advantage is their support - even if it is after warranty.  I had a volume crash on me, called up Synology support, and they helped me despite being out of warranty.  They were able to walk me through the things I needed to do quickly and recovered something I thought was long gone.  Amazing to say the least.

 

Finally, I love to build my own systems.  Despite that, I am going to say that sometimes it is a lot easier to just turn to someone else for what needs to  be done.  While I am a HP certified printer tech, I would rather let someone else deal with the mess of inkjet printers. 

They're a mixed bag, in my experience. They certainly offer an easier off the shelf solution, but if you opt for a cheaper model the 'packages' available are quite limited, and if you're willing to pay more you could just purchase Unraid which offers a similar capability via docker. It's not quite as easy to set up as Synology's OS, but it's not that difficult either.

 

As for support, I used to have a Synology DS414J - I had a single drive failure in a 4-drive RAID 5 array and it caused the entire device to fail to boot. When I contacted them, they told me to recover the data by plugging the drives into another system and then wipe it, but they weren't willing or able to diagnose why a routine drive failure caused a boot failure, pointed to their warranty which is basically "we don't take any responsibility for data loss or recovery", and that was it. Needless to say as soon as I recovered the data I got rid of that thing.

 

 

I've been getting by with a cheap-and-cheerful WD MyCloud EX2 Ultra, but I'm thinking of giving this a go in lieu of going back to a QNAP or something. Offers way more flexibility and connectivity options - Synology don't even have 2.5Gigabit on most of their models.

 

[dogwitch]

2 minutes ago, DaveFace said:

They're a mixed bag, in my experience. They certainly offer an easier off the shelf solution, but if you opt for a cheaper model the 'packages' available are quite limited, and if you're willing to pay more you could just purchase Unraid which offers a similar capability via docker. It's not quite as easy to set up as Synology's OS, but it's not that difficult either.

 

As for support, I used to have a Synology DS414J - I had a single drive failure in a 4-drive RAID 5 array and it caused the entire device to fail to boot. When I contacted them, they told me to recover the data by plugging the drives into another system and then wipe it, but they weren't willing or able to diagnose why a routine drive failure caused a boot failure, pointed to their warranty which is basically "we don't take any responsibility for data loss or recovery", and that was it. Needless to say as soon as I recovered the data I got rid of that thing.

 

i love docker quote.... update docker breaks stuff....

[DaveFace]

16 minutes ago, dogwitch said:

i love docker quote.... update docker breaks stuff....

Not had that experience myself, but admittedly I've not used them that much. That said, you could go for the full Synology experience and simply never update them - I used to use Subversion (SVN) server on my 414j and although it was officially supported it was an ancient version several years out of date.

 

I just went to check what their latest version is, and it turns out they've dropped support for it entirely in the DSM7.0. The only workaround is using (drumroll): docker containers! So that's probably going to have the same pitfalls.

[dogwitch]

1 hour ago, DaveFace said:

Not had that experience myself, but admittedly I've not used them that much. That said, you could go for the full Synology experience and simply never update them - I used to use Subversion (SVN) server on my 414j and although it was officially supported it was an ancient version several years out of date.

 

I just went to check what their latest version is, and it turns out they've dropped support for it entirely in the DSM7.0. The only workaround is using (drumroll): docker containers! So that's probably going to have the same pitfalls.

that why i using syn nas for data back up and music. anything else goes onto tr build.

[JITZE]

On 3/5/2022 at 6:09 PM, jakkuh_t said:

 

Can. you edit off this? like final cut pro, black magic raw ?

[davidedace]

I also have couple of technical questions regarding this build. Let's say my motherboard has only 1 m.2 slot so I can't install the expansion slot, but I still want to have a cache ssd and use all the sata (4) for the storage drives. Would it be equivalent to have a larger m.2 nvme drive and partition it to have OS and cache using the same drive and skipping the sata sdd?
Also, is there actually any way to get the Jonsbo n1 in europe?

[tkitch]

3 hours ago, davidedace said:

I also have couple of technical questions regarding this build. Let's say my motherboard has only 1 m.2 slot so I can't install the expansion slot, but I still want to have a cache ssd and use all the sata (4) for the storage drives. Would it be equivalent to have a larger m.2 nvme drive and partition it to have OS and cache using the same drive and skipping the sata sdd?
Also, is there actually any way to get the Jonsbo n1 in europe?

The Cache drive they're using is an Intel Optane, not your run of the mill SSD.  Optane is crazy high endurance, thus making it awesome for cache which will generate a fuckton of read/write.

 

If you get a PCIE SATA card (they're crazy cheap) you can get at least 2 more SATA ports to connect the remainder of the drives.

 

Do you not have access to aliexpress for the case?

 

 

[AbydosOne]

29 minutes ago, tkitch said:

If you get a PCIE SATA card (they're crazy cheap) you can get at least 2 more SATA ports to connect the remainder of the drives.

I caution about using just any SATA card as TrueNAS doesn't play well with (at least) Marvell controllers (for some reason; I've had bad experiences with them twice now). HBAs from LSI, etc., are a better choice.

[Needfuldoer]

17 hours ago, JITZE said:

Can. you edit off this? like final cut pro, black magic raw ?

With enough network bandwidth, or few enough editors, yes. 

 

If it's just for a single machine, you're better off installing drives directly instead of putting them on a network.

[Roque Junior]

On 3/5/2022 at 5:40 PM, SidusSol said:

I'm currently running a Synology DS 415play (4 drives, 2 raid 1 sets) and I used to use it for backing up customer files for web design etc and a plex server. I now mainly use it for personal files and plex server and I've been thinking of making my own NAS for a while so this vid was perfect but I have a few questions. Does True Nas support Plex install or have a store like Synology for apps? Does this support transcoding on the fly for streaming or would need a different cpu? My PC has two network cards on board (2.5gb & 1gb) if I build with a board that has the same can I run a network cable direct(crossover maybe) to get 2.5gb performance as I don't have a 2.5gb switch yet. Can you host game servers (Minecraft/ARK etc) on true nas. Any answers would be great!

Hello all.

I saw this video and I am considering something like this for this same issue. I have a DS415 Play as well, and also I'm trying to migrate to a more self-managed option. Never tried freenas before but the though of having to buy another NAS from 3rd party companies does not please me at all. Self made solutions are something I'm looking for.

I'll try to manage a configuration that can fit this Jonsbo and let's se if it works. Does anybody has a viable config in pcpartpicker that we could use as alternates? Since it's very hard to find somewhat some hardware available nowadays?

Regards and thank you.

[davidedace]

5 hours ago, tkitch said:

The Cache drive they're using is an Intel Optane, not your run of the mill SSD.  Optane is crazy high endurance, thus making it awesome for cache which will generate a fuckton of read/write.

 

If you get a PCIE SATA card (they're crazy cheap) you can get at least 2 more SATA ports to connect the remainder of the drives.

 

Do you not have access to aliexpress for the case?

 

 

that's a good point and the PCIE SATA card is actually a good workaround suggestion, thank you!

I could buy on aliexpress but the shipping costs (to switzerland) are the same as the case itself, so i might as well wait a little until they also list it here (there are other jonsbo cases and products) or find another suitable case, for which I'm open to suggestions.

[tkitch]

2 minutes ago, davidedace said:

that's a good point and the PCIE SATA card is actually a good workaround suggestion, thank you!

I could buy on aliexpress but the shipping costs (to switzerland) are the same as the case itself, so i might as well wait a little until they also list it here (there are other jonsbo cases and products) or find another suitable case, for which I'm open to suggestions.

there are a ton of cases that would hold 4-5 3.5" HDDs easily, but they wouldn't be nearly as tiny as this case is.

[tkitch]

2 hours ago, Roque Junior said:

Hello all.

I saw this video and I am considering something like this for this same issue. I have a DS415 Play as well, and also I'm trying to migrate to a more self-managed option. Never tried freenas before but the though of having to buy another NAS from 3rd party companies does not please me at all. Self made solutions are something I'm looking for.

I'll try to manage a configuration that can fit this Jonsbo and let's se if it works. Does anybody has a viable config in pcpartpicker that we could use as alternates? Since it's very hard to find somewhat some hardware available nowadays?

Regards and thank you.

you need an ITX board, with a compatible CPU.

If you get a non-F series intel, it'll have built in graphics to make life easier.  finding hardware to do this isn't hard.  

[ESPImperium]

Id love to see how this would look with a GPU in there for 4K Transcoding of video and anything else that needs that little extra kick of performance.

[wolo_zdeto]

Hi there !

I have a little problem because I can't boot without GPU ... the motherboard still blocking on the white LED (VGA).
I've got the same configuration, expected the CPU that is an AMD Ryzen 5 3600.
I specify that I haven't any troubles to boot went I plug my GPU.
I don't find any options in my BIOS settings (v. 2603, updated according to the Asus website)...
Has anyone been able to solve this problem?
I'm hesitating to change the CPU for an APU, because my GPU is an MSI GeForce GT 730, a low profile, but that does not fit in the box.
But if I can avoid more costs, it would be great, especially since you managed to make it all work in the video.

Thank you by advance !

[Benitio]

Hey I want to build my own Nas and I was wondering if anybody had any idea how to get some way inexpensive storage. It'll be used as a plex server , game file storage mostly. I'm in Ireland and looking at over 200 euro for 8tb. That's ~900 without buying (or building) the actual NAS itself.

[zmw]

oof, i hate to even ask this question because I feel like it's dumb.

No where in the mobo list of parts, or on the parts listed on the build is the M.2 --> sata 3 adapter/card - In the video Linus mentions it's like 20$, but I don't see it anywhere.

I am planning on building this with an intel and integrated graphics, in an effort to minimize, I'm going to scrap my NUC which is being used as my plex server, and scrap my old 6 bay readynas, and combine them into this one build. The intel and AMD versions of that board do not indicate 6 sata connectors and the key does not appear to be included with either?

 

thx - Z

 

[AbydosOne]

4 minutes ago, zmw said:

No where in the mobo list of parts, or on the parts listed on the build is the M.2 --> sata 3 adapter/card - In the video Linus mentions it's like 20$, but I don't see it anywhere.

[zmw]

1 hour ago, AbydosOne said:

  mmm, I see what you did there - Ordered. Supposedly it'll all show up sometime next week. I went way overkill with compute - I have a feeling I'll not be too excited to combine my plex/ubuntu server and my NAS - I screw around with my ubuntu box too much to truly make it my NAS...

 

[Dark_Passages]

Most of the items mentioned in the description of the video arrived and guess what "No boot because there is no GPU", but somehow Linus gets it to work?

I tried google and some forums where all I see is more people that have the same problem, but no one seems to have an answer, especially Linus who shows a video where it seems to work is very silent about how he got it to work. 

 

Because of his huge help in this matter (is he even on his own forum?) I asked Asus the manufacturer of the motherboard, after explaining "they do not offer this kind of support for motherboards that are supposed to be used for gaming, not as a server" a few times they suggested I buy a HDMI display port dummy to fake the presence of a monitor. When I asked how that will help in the case of "not booting because of missing GPU" they admitted what they suggested will NOT solve the issue. They also wonder how Linus managed to make it work, since it's currently NOT a setting in the BIOS that can be changed.

 

So Asus is doing some random suggestion and Linus is not responding at all... Is there anyone (who actually knows the ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING motherboard) that can tell us how it can be done?

[Dark_Passages]

On 4/28/2022 at 11:13 PM, zmw said:

  mmm, I see what you did there - Ordered. Supposedly it'll all show up sometime next week. I went way overkill with compute - I have a feeling I'll not be too excited to combine my plex/ubuntu server and my NAS - I screw around with my ubuntu box too much to truly make it my NAS...

 

You might want to look into Proxmox, there you can run your Ubuntu server in a virtual machine without disturbing your NAS.