Fractal Node 202 3 year old build is overheating

[HappyButton]

got a build from 2019 that just shuts down completely lately, when heavy on gaming. started noticing it happens more frequently while on voip discord (like that added layer of load while gaming too) Not 100% if this is the CPU or GPU overheating but I'm almost certain is shutting off like that because it has peaked on heat.

 

looking for cooling suggestions to try out...

 

current build:

noctua NH-L9i

i7-9700kf

2080super

corsair sf600

asrock z390

pair of corsairs ddr4 vengencelpx

 

googled something about some Wraith+C7 fan cooling "hack" but not sure if that'll be any better for my build's situation 

 

thanks appreciate any inputs!

[Eastman51]

Have you actually tried checking temperature in software like HWinfo64? 
You should also open up the PC and check dust buildup.

 

A computer shutting off under load could be due to a thermal issue with the CPU or motherboard (overheating GPU generally doesn't shut off a PC to my knowledge) or perhaps an issue with the power supply; unstable power delivery under load could easily cause the system to crash. 

[HappyButton]

thanks that was a mad fast reply!

I was actually just googling further and yeah, I am starting to suspect it's my PSU that may be the problem child here..

 

the Node202 rig is insanely hot to the the touch though, when it does shutdown! 

 

so currently sounds like I have to upp my cooling and also my PSU hmmmm..

 

thnx! hope to see more inputs and thoughts on this thanks!

[Eastman51]

If you really think cooling is part of the issue, clean any dust and start monitoring temps. If temps read too high, then it'd be valid to consider using better thermal paste, upgrading fans, or looking at alternative coolers. Without actual data you have zero places to start from. For all you know, that heat on the chassis is just because hot air is blowing on it from the GPU. I know that in my ITX PC, certain parts of the chassis get quite warm to the touch due to GPU air; but actual temps are well within safe margins. 

 

In the meantime, it would be beneficial to find a power supply of more than sufficient wattage and is known to be good. Such as borrowing a friend's PSU for a quick test; I've lended PSUs to buddies before to help them determine their eBay Corsair pos was causing problems. Alternatively, you should be able to see 12v, 5v, and 3.3v readings in HWinfo64; if these readings change too much it could cause the PC to crash and you know for sure something is up with the PSU. It might also be beneficial to pick up a Kill A Watt (or any other similar tool) so you can see wattage draw from the wall. 

[HappyButton]

update:

 

the rig ain't turning back on .. haha

 

think the psu is cooked

 

gonna try to rma it

[--SID--]

Can be the motherboard too. Did you test the PSU with https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025085372-How-to-Test-a-power-supply-unit

[Alan G]

I don't think your setup is good for your purpose.  that case was designed more for a media center application where it's not going to be stressed.  You have a very light weight cooler and the case limits the options here.  I know the Fractal Designs website talks about building high performance rigs in this case but IMO this is not the way to go.   I have nothing against Fractal as they are the only case manufacturer that I use.  My HTPC set up is in a Core 500 and it's only function is to stream content to my TV.  I have a Pentium CPU with the same cooler that you do and it hardly gets hot at all but then I don't game.

[Eastman51]

12 hours ago, Alan G said:

I don't think your setup is good for your purpose.  that case was designed more for a media center application where it's not going to be stressed.  You have a very light weight cooler and the case limits the options here.  I know the Fractal Designs website talks about building high performance rigs in this case but IMO this is not the way to go.   I have nothing against Fractal as they are the only case manufacturer that I use.  My HTPC set up is in a Core 500 and it's only function is to stream content to my TV.  I have a Pentium CPU with the same cooler that you do and it hardly gets hot at all but then I don't game.

I don't see why it would be a problem. As long as the case is sitting vertically it shouldn't create too many cooling problems; the case is vented properly for intake and is designed for use with a dedicated graphics card. 
It seems more like the PSU cooked and died, perhaps because it was a low quality unit or of insufficient wattage

[HappyButton]

yea i think its just the Node 202 is giving up on the build after having run all these years... and with the newer next-gen games this point in time probably pushing the rig even further than when I first built it.

 

check out my temps ((:

 

btw, the rig came back on. i realized only now years later that the case actually has room on the case for an additional 2x120mm fans that can help blow into the gpu

 

and the next thing learning only now pulling up them dusty manuals is that i actually might have room to swap out the stock noctua l9i slim fan with a thicker 25mm fan.. so that alone might help 1-3degrees and prevent a shutoff

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