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2 minutes ago, TubbusMaximus said:

It's a reasonable choice. Honestly, I wouldn't have steered you away from a PCIe 4.0 drive as it will probably outlast the motherboard and could go in your next build (but by then, PCIe 5.0 will be a thing, so 🤷‍♂️)

Hey there! Reaching out for some assistance on navigating through the increasingly confusing jargon that is PC life.

 

I am looking to upgrade to the below (or similar) SSD, but I am not sure if my motherboard will bottleneck its performance. In addition, I have not been able to find any performance information as it relates to mounting on the motherboard directly, or via PCIe adapter. My initial thought for most things in life is that if something requires an additional piece to run, that will degrade performance. Not sure if that holds true here.

 

The only thing I am aware of is that I will lose connectivity to one of my 4 SATA ports if I mount it directly to the motherboard, which is not an inconvenience for me as of today.

 

I would be using this SSD as my OS boot drive, and game/video/music storage. I do very minor video editing from time to time. I currently run a Kingston 480GB SATA SSD drive as my boot + game launcher. Seagate HDD for my data files.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

My motherboard

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z370-P-II/techspec/

 

Proposed SSD

https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-Internal-Maximum-Performance-SB-RKTQ4-2TB/dp/B08D29JQ24/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=KmUjh&pf_rd_p=abee655a-f25b-41b9-9f03-635abdfc697d&pf_rd_r=3M4Y7BQKFE3BMZ5QNZ6R&pd_rd_r=63c1b7d1-864a-4a66-a401-ec6679c4ae46&pd_rd_wg=HBIqK&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m

 

Potential Mounting Solution (pending advice)

https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-NVMe-PCIe-Aluminum-EC-PCIE/dp/B084GDY2PW/ref=pd_day0fbt_img_1/132-1389921-2032339?pd_rd_w=zXhrE&pf_rd_p=acc65436-fc4e-45ed-98e6-1cea96557795&pf_rd_r=DV5MGYHJ9GMDT8YH6953&pd_rd_r=97647f96-7439-45e2-a30c-6f3b7f7b64b7&pd_rd_wg=WIs4Y&pd_rd_i=B084GDY2PW&psc=1

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Well I would choose a different ssd as its alot more expensive simply because it's a pcie 4.0 drive while your motherboard doesn't support pcie 4.0 so it wouldn't gain any advantage over other pcie 3.0 drives that are a fraction of the price. 

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12 minutes ago, TubbusMaximus said:

In addition, I have not been able to find any performance information as it relates to mounting on the motherboard directly, or via PCIe adapter.

There should be (in theory) no difference in performance, assuming both are connected directly to the CPU provided PCIe lanes (as opposed to those coming from the chipset, which can bottleneck).

 

However, as is the case with many motherboards, putting something in the second PCIe x16 slot will drop the primary slot to x8. If you have an especially high-end GPU, this can induce another bottleneck.

 

I would recommend just putting on the motherboard, just to save the cost of the adapter and to ensure the best compatibility in BIOS.

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I would go with this instead https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-NAND-2TB-SSD-WDS200T2B0B/dp/B073SBW3VD/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3C0124FE793S4&keywords=m2+ssd+2tb&qid=1640711373&sprefix=m.2+ssd%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-8

Also I would just connect it to the m.2 slot on your motherboard instead of over complicating it. 

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3 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would go with this instead https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-NAND-2TB-SSD-WDS200T2B0B/dp/B073SBW3VD/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3C0124FE793S4&keywords=m2+ssd+2tb&qid=1640711373&sprefix=m.2+ssd%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-8

Also I would just connect it to the m.2 slot on your motherboard instead of over complicating it. 

That's a SATA SSD.

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Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB DDR4 3200MT/s (soldered) | Vega II 384SP Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi | Asus 2.5G USB NIC | Asus ProArt PA278QV | Keychron K4 Brown (white backlight)

 

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                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
╚═══ Flex XG ══╦╤═══ Flex XG ══╤╦═ Byarlant
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   (Testing)   ║┌─ Injector ┘  └── Work Laptop
     Bedroom ══╝│        ┌─────── Media Center ────────────────────────────┐
     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
Notes:                                         ├─ Sony PlayStation 4 
─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit          ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed from Bedroom to Media Center  └─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
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6 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would go with this instead https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-NAND-2TB-SSD-WDS200T2B0B/dp/B073SBW3VD/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3C0124FE793S4&keywords=m2+ssd+2tb&qid=1640711373&sprefix=m.2+ssd%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-8

Also I would just connect it to the m.2 slot on your motherboard instead of over complicating it. 

With that being a SATA SSD, I'll probably pass. I'd like to have some speed.

 

Perhaps this one?

https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-RKTQ-2TB/dp/B0829DZH2W/ref=sr_1_5?crid=37KWCSBDXYF2W&keywords=2tb+nvme+gen+3&qid=1640711426&s=electronics&sprefix=2tb+nvme+gen+3%2Celectronics%2C76&sr=1-5

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2 minutes ago, TubbusMaximus said:

It's a reasonable choice. Honestly, I wouldn't have steered you away from a PCIe 4.0 drive as it will probably outlast the motherboard and could go in your next build (but by then, PCIe 5.0 will be a thing, so 🤷‍♂️)

Main System (Byarlant): Ryzen 9 5950X | Asus B550-Creator ProArt | EK 240mm Basic AIO | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MT/s CL16 | XFX Speedster SWFT 210 RX 6600 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB / Samsung 990 EVO Plus 4TB | Corsair RM750X | StarTech 4× USB 3.0 Card | Realtek RTL8127 10G NIC | Hyte Y60 Case | Dell U3415W Monitor | Keychron K12 Blue (RGB backlight)

 

Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB DDR4 3200MT/s (soldered) | Vega II 384SP Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi | Asus 2.5G USB NIC | Asus ProArt PA278QV | Keychron K4 Brown (white backlight)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | ASRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 128GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD / 4× WD 10TB / 4× Seagate 14TB Exos / 4× Micron MX500 2TB / 8× WD 12TB (custom external SAS enclosure) | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X550-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9300-8i HBA | Adaptec 82885T SAS Expander | Fractal Design Node 804 Case

 

Proxmox Server (La Vie en Rose)GMKtec Mini PC | Ryzen 7 5700U | 32GB Lexar DDR4 (SODIMM) | Vega II 512SP Graphics | Lexar 1TB 610 Pro SSD | 2× Realtek 8125 2.5G NICs


Media Center/Video Capture (Jesta Cannon): Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB / TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB | Corsair CX450M | Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | TrendNet (AQC107) 10G NIC | LG WH14NS40 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

 

Workbench (Doven Wolf): Lenovo m715q | Ryzen Pro 3 2200GE | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s (SODIMM) | Vega 8 Graphics | SKHynix (OEM) 256GB NVMe SSD | uni 2.5G USB NIC | HDMI add-in module

 

Network:

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                       ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ───────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ── Cloud Gateway Max ══╦═ Pro XG 8 ══╦═ Flex 2.5-8 ══╦═ Doven Wolf
                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
╚═══ Flex XG ══╦╤═══ Flex XG ══╤╦═ Byarlant
       (PoE)   ║│              │╠═ Narrative 
Kitchen Jack ══╣└─ Dual PoE ┐  │╚═ Jesta Cannon*
   (Testing)   ║┌─ Injector ┘  └── Work Laptop
     Bedroom ══╝│        ┌─────── Media Center ────────────────────────────┐
     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
Notes:                                         ├─ Sony PlayStation 4 
─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit          ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed from Bedroom to Media Center  └─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
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1 minute ago, AbydosOne said:

It's a reasonable choice. Honestly, I wouldn't have steered you away from a PCIe 4.0 drive as it will probably outlast the motherboard and could go in your next build (but by then, PCIe 5.0 will be a thing, so 🤷‍♂️)

Fair point. It's highly unlikely I will ever have a build that matches the times as I don't like being a first adopter of new tech. Going gen 4 today does have value for my needs. I'm on an OC'd i5 9600k today, with plans to upgrade my board and cpu next Christmas

 

Your help is much appreciated today, thank you!

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19 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I would go with this instead https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-NAND-2TB-SSD-WDS200T2B0B/dp/B073SBW3VD/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3C0124FE793S4&keywords=m2+ssd+2tb&qid=1640711373&sprefix=m.2+ssd%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-8

Also I would just connect it to the m.2 slot on your motherboard instead of over complicating it. 

Thanks for your help today, Brooksie!

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