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3060TI issue with Top Most PCIe slot of Asus Tuf X570 MOBO

DarthTaterCruz
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Hello, first time posting so sorry if etiquette isn't being followed...

I recently purchased a Prebuilt that had a 3060ti so I could swap with my current card (1660) and sell the prebuilt with my old card.

It booted fine initially but immediately I noticed stuttering even when using windows. I updated the drivers and the issues still occurred. I loaded up some games and those too performed poorly, I'm talking worse than my old 1660. It was very bad. Sometimes it would just turn off the display and restart the PC. So I did the whole dance with using DDU to uninstall and then reinstall drivers, both with GeForce Experience and manually, all to no avail. I swapped graphics cards again to see if the card even worked and it worked perfectly fine in its old rig, as did my old Gpu, so it seems they both work fine. In the prebuilt it performed as expected with the same drivers albeit running windows 11. I tried changing bios setting like RAM speeds and turning on Resizable Bar after looking on many forums. Tried all the output slots and different monitors. I tried the PSU reset thing, even bought a new 750w PSU, my previous one also being a 750W and barely a year and a half old. I eve reset my PC completely and nothing changed, it would be super choppy and games like LoL would get like 40 FPS. Then I tried the second slot on my X570 Board. Turning on the PC and running windows worked and the choppiness was gone. I installed my drivers and it seemed like everything was fixed until I tried playing Escape from Tarkov, I upped the setting and it ran fine for 30 seconds before the screen went black and the fans went full speed. I could hear the game still, but no signal. I had to turn it off by holding the power button for a few seconds. Thought it was a fluke and tried again. Same thing only it lasted a little longer. I visually inspected the MOBO and noticed that the card wasn't fully seated. I took it out and reseated making sure everything looked fine, checked all cables again and then tried once more. Same thing happened. After a while I noticed again it wasn't fully seated into the slot. I realized this was because of my case I think. I have a Meshify C. When I would screw the graphics card in to secure it, the card would be displaced a little and come out of its slot just a bit that I think could cause the instability. I fully seated again, without screwing it in and relying on the DP cables to hold it up and it finally worked. I ran all my games and they ran mostly as expected, I ran Tarkov ultra as before and I was able to play without Black screens or fans ramping up.

 

If I understand correctly, the second PCIe slot is only X4 so not the full bandwidth of the first slot. While it run well enough where I can play my games at High settings at high framerates, I'd rather not leave any performance on the floor. I tried putting it back on the first slot and it showed the same problems as before, black screening on windows. Does anybody else have this issue with the Asus Tuf X570. My assumption is that the chipset cooling fan is to large and not allowing the GPU to completely seat into the pie slot, as the new 3060ti is larger than my previous 1660, which still works fine when plugged into the same slot. For now I'm running it on the second slot but would love to put it back in the first slot to get the most performance out of it.

 

Also, while I don't think its an issue or the cause, I should note my CPU is missing a pin. I bought it damaged and repaired it but one pin was missing, however we think its a grounding pin as my PC has run fine with my 1660 and now mostly the 3060 for a while.

 

Specs:

Gpu: HP Prebuilt 3060Ti

CPU: 5600X

MOBO: Asus TUF X570 Gaming Plus with Wifi

Ram: 32gb Vengeance 3200mhz

PSU: "Old" BeQuiet 750W---"New" Corsair CX750M

Case: Meshify C

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You trued the first slot without screwing the card down onto the case?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Try a fresh Windows install. I know you said that you "reset my PC completely" but that isn't quite the same.

1 hour ago, DarthTaterCruz said:

I should note my CPU is missing a pin. I bought it damaged and repaired it but one pin was missing, however we think its a grounding pin

Are you sure, though? Have you cross referenced it with a pin diagram like the one on wikichip?

 

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/packages/socket_am4

BabyBlu.2 (Primary): 

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
  • Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F
  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 @ 6400MHz 30-40-40-96
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2100MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B650I AORUS ULTRA
  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 @ 6000MHz 30-38-38-96
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR200
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair SF850L
  • Display: Dell Alienware AW3420DW GSync
  • Cooling: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • 2.5Gb NIC
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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1 hour ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Try a fresh Windows install. I know you said that you "reset my PC completely" but that isn't quite the same.

Are you sure, though? Have you cross referenced it with a pin diagram like the one on wikichip?

 

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/packages/socket_am4

Yeah it was a fresh windows install, sorry poor wording. I haven't checked that nor did I know it even existed. When I bought the CPU I looked into it but couldn't find one. Ill have to check that.

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1 minute ago, DarthTaterCruz said:

Yeah it was a fresh windows install, sorry poor wording. I haven't checked that nor did I know it even existed. When I bought the CPU I looked into it but couldn't find one. Ill have to check that.

Also, wouldn't that also have affected my 1660 set up as well?

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1 hour ago, --SID-- said:

Why did you replace it? It's superiour to a CX750M in every way!

I was looking on forums that said it could be a PSU issue so I wanted to rule it out. I like my Be Quiet and if the issue is resolved will return to using it and return the Corsair. 

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So I purchased an extension card to see if perhaps my issue is a physical one as in the chipset cooler on my X570 was getting in the way. I booted in first slot and the same issues occurred. I went to my bios and tried a few setting changes and when I changed the pcie slot from auto to gen 3 my stability issues went away. I tried spy mark and it ram fine without black screening. I tried switching back to auto and gen 4 and again it crashes. I don’t know if this helps but it kind of sailors the problem. Is there much performance to be lost in gen 3, and if so it is more or less when compared to running the gpu in the second slot?

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