Upgrading to Mirrorless.

[Hungvatly]

So I'm currently having a DSLR camera ( Canon EOS 5D Mark III). It is still good, but it's horrible to use when sometimes it comes to videos. So I'm looking for a sony camera and two names came across my research: sony a6300 and Sony a7. Which one should I buy or I should not bother upgrading at all?

 

[SorryBella]

46 minutes ago, hungnguyen said:

It is still good, but it's horrible to use when sometimes it comes to videos.

In what way? There's a lot of way to ruin experience of shooting videos and a lot of ways to fix it.

[Electronics Wizardy]

What features do you want in video? What video features do you want? Have you tried using magic lantern on the camera?

 

Whats your budget? What lenses do you have?

 

I got a r5 recently, and its a pretty good camera for videos, and a huge step up over the 5d series.

[YellowJersey]

What do you shoot?
What's your budget?
APS-C or full frame?
What do you prioritise?

[Imbadatnames]

On 12/11/2021 at 1:31 AM, YellowJersey said:

What do you shoot?
What's your budget?
APS-C or full frame?
What do you prioritise?

And which A7 is he on about 

[YellowJersey]

33 minutes ago, Imbadatnames said:

And which A7 is he on about 

TBH, I tend to recco Fuji for APS-C. Full frame becomes a bit trickier. I actually think that Nikon has the best full frame mirrorless bodies (in general), but Sony has the third-party lens support. If you've got the money, I'd say go Nikon while Sony gives you better bang for the buck.

[Imbadatnames]

12 hours ago, YellowJersey said:

TBH, I tend to recco Fuji for APS-C. Full frame becomes a bit trickier. I actually think that Nikon has the best full frame mirrorless bodies (in general), but Sony has the third-party lens support. If you've got the money, I'd say go Nikon while Sony gives you better bang for the buck.

Full frame is just a bit bulky for me personally. 
 

I have a Fuji and recommending them is easy as the menus are fairly straight forward, the kit lens’ are very useable and even though glass js limited (though 3rd party to X-mount is open now) it is fairly priced for what it is and there’s enough to cover nearly everything. 

[YellowJersey]

5 hours ago, Imbadatnames said:

Full frame is just a bit bulky for me personally. 
 

I have a Fuji and recommending them is easy as the menus are fairly straight forward, the kit lens’ are very useable and even though glass js limited (though 3rd party to X-mount is open now) it is fairly priced for what it is and there’s enough to cover nearly everything. 

Fuji is also the only one that really takes APS-C seriously.

[Imbadatnames]

29 minutes ago, YellowJersey said:

Fuji is also the only one that really takes APS-C seriously.

I think Sony are getting there and Canon are going to have to support their Mirrorless mount properly eventually 

[YellowJersey]

2 hours ago, Imbadatnames said:

I think Sony are getting there and Canon are going to have to support their Mirrorless mount properly eventually 

Canon kind of shot itself in the foot by having the M mount and then the R mount. The M mount is seeing very little love from Canon. Makes me wonder if low-end APS-C is even worth it anymore? Maybe the market isn't there anymore? Same goes for Nikon. Sony's putting in a bit of effort, though. I'd be curious to know where the money is in the ICL market, though.

[Imbadatnames]

1 hour ago, YellowJersey said:

Canon kind of shot itself in the foot by having the M mount and then the R mount. The M mount is seeing very little love from Canon. Makes me wonder if low-end APS-C is even worth it anymore? Maybe the market isn't there anymore? Same goes for Nikon. Sony's putting in a bit of effort, though. I'd be curious to know where the money is in the ICL market, though.

Well DSLR is on the way out that’s for sure. Issue to me is because Canon and Nikon have been so dominant in the DSLR market and their marketshare so high to the point of people judging professionals who don’t have either one they just haven’t needed to adapt. Then Sony and Fuji have blindsided them with really good Mirrorless offerings and they’re reacting really slowly. For me it’s similar to the Intel vs AMD issue, because the answer for so long has been “get a canon” the same as it was “get an i5” the mood has to change and people need to start recommending the new stuff which thankfully seems to be happening, Fuji X is getting very popular with the beginner crowd  and the XT30 which I have for example is great value at around £700 with a very good kit lens in the XC 15-45

[YellowJersey]

2 hours ago, Imbadatnames said:

Well DSLR is on the way out that’s for sure. Issue to me is because Canon and Nikon have been so dominant in the DSLR market and their marketshare so high to the point of people judging professionals who don’t have either one they just haven’t needed to adapt. Then Sony and Fuji have blindsided them with really good Mirrorless offerings and they’re reacting really slowly. For me it’s similar to the Intel vs AMD issue, because the answer for so long has been “get a canon” the same as it was “get an i5” the mood has to change and people need to start recommending the new stuff which thankfully seems to be happening, Fuji X is getting very popular with the beginner crowd  and the XT30 which I have for example is great value at around £700 with a very good kit lens in the XC 15-45

Fuji has really carved out a nice and rather unique niche for itself. The APS-C sensor means you can really shrink the bodies and, more importantly, the lenses but still has a big enough sensor to produce great image quality even in low light. So I think Fuji nailed the balance between size/weight and image quality.

 Panasonic has also carved out an interesting niche for itself by focusing so much on video, so much so that even their MFT system is still relevant.

 Sony, Canon, and Nikon are battling it out in the full frame stills/hybrid market, but Fuji and Panasonic have really capitalised on smaller but under served markets.

 Poor Olympus, though. I think they made a mistake going all-in on MFT and primarily focusing on stills, because there's a lot of like about their cameras and lenses.