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are normal gpu compared to "ti" versions worth the buck in laptops?

Dhiman003

Ti is not something added to the original one, it's outright a different GPU. Dont compare them like K or non K on Intel CPUs

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Ti is not something added to the original one, it's outright a different GPU. Dont compare them like K or non K on Intel CPUs

What?

This has nothing to do with the question asked though?
Op only asked if a ti gpu was faster enough for the price hike to be worth it....

Plus, technically a ti gpu might be the same silicon, but with more functioning parts/less disabled stuff, think 3080 vs 3080ti, both have the same ga102 die, with less disabled

Bassically the same as a locked vs unlocked cpu, the silicon is the same, but the unlocked has functioning stuff to chnage the multiplier that a locked doesnt

I could use some help with this!

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Well it depends what a few extra frames is worth to you personally.

 

I got a 2060 Super over the cheaper 2060 because it has 256-bit memory compared to 192-bit and also a slight increase in cuda cores but I couldn't afford a 2070 etc (well I could if I didn't buy a NVMe) but a 2060 Super is not much different from a 2070 so probably not worth it for me. Anyway a Ti gives a few more frames than a non Ti, what that is worth to you I really can't say.

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1 hour ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

What?

This has nothing to do with the question asked though?
Op only asked if a ti gpu was faster enough for the price hike to be worth it....

Problem is it's not even a price hike, 3050Ti is cheaper than 3050 on my screen1812644097_Screenshot2021-11-29120609.png.3ca722db54888aab3e31d08126948bb9.png

so I couldnt comment on this properly. What I can tell him is that Ti does not relate to extra features, just performance so benchmarks will tell all there is to know.

 

1 hour ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Plus, technically a ti gpu might be the same silicon, but with more functioning parts/less disabled stuff, think 3080 vs 3080ti, both have the same ga102 die, with less disabled

Bassically the same as a locked vs unlocked cpu, the silicon is the same, but the unlocked has functioning stuff to chnage the multiplier that a locked doesnt

More performance and more features are not the same, I see you're already falling into that hole. How it's done isnt so important.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Problem is it's not even a price hike, 3050Ti is cheaper than 3050 on my screen1812644097_Screenshot2021-11-29120609.png.3ca722db54888aab3e31d08126948bb9.png

so I couldnt comment on this properly. What I can tell him is that Ti does not relate to extra features, just performance so benchmarks will tell all there is to know.

 

More performance and more features are not the same, I see you're already falling into that hole. How it's done isnt so important.

smh.

You couldve just said that answering OPs question, rather than saying something that has n othing to do with the question

I could use some help with this!

please, pm me if you would like to contribute to my gpu bios database (includes overclocking bios, stock bios, and upgrades to gpus via modding)

Bios database

My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

prior build:

Spoiler

 

 

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3050 Ti has more cuda, rt and tensor cores and runs at higher stock frequency.

They are both still 1080p chips attthe entry level but it seems like the Ti will definitely offer you higher FPS in games.

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19 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

What?

This has nothing to do with the question asked though?
Op only asked if a ti gpu was faster enough for the price hike to be worth it....

Plus, technically a ti gpu might be the same silicon, but with more functioning parts/less disabled stuff, think 3080 vs 3080ti, both have the same ga102 die, with less disabled

Bassically the same as a locked vs unlocked cpu, the silicon is the same, but the unlocked has functioning stuff to chnage the multiplier that a locked doesnt

Fair comment with 3080 but with 3060 and 3070 you actually get different memory with the Ti variants (GDDR6X vs GDDR6) however that's not the case with the 3050 where you just get more cores and higher frequencies

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Remember that a laptop GPU with the same name as a desktop GPU is often vastly different in performance. For example a laptop 3080 is sometimes on par with a desktop 3070. Mainly because of power and thermal limitations. 
My advice would be to go with the best GPU that you can afford especially if you plan to keep it for a while (of course you cannot upgrade the components in a laptop like you can in a desktop).

As others have stated the Ti version usually has more cuda cores or more or faster RAM. 
 

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On 11/30/2021 at 12:34 AM, Helpful Tech Witch said:

What?

This has nothing to do with the question asked though?
Op only asked if a ti gpu was faster enough for the price hike to be worth it....

Plus, technically a ti gpu might be the same silicon, but with more functioning parts/less disabled stuff, think 3080 vs 3080ti, both have the same ga102 die, with less disabled

Bassically the same as a locked vs unlocked cpu, the silicon is the same, but the unlocked has functioning stuff to chnage the multiplier that a locked doesnt

So, can the regular ones(without the "ti" ones) be unlocked and overclocked?

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Also, thankyou all for taking out time and replying.

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19 minutes ago, Dhiman003 said:

So, can the regular ones(without the "ti" ones) be unlocked and overclocked?

Yeah, TI doesn't mean it can overclock and the regular ones can't. Just means that it's clocked a little faster out of the gate and might have extra VRAM. 

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