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Serious upgrade help required please!

Twistedinc

Budget (including currency): No real cap

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Every day office usage during the day. Gaming wise, mostly survival games (tried playing Ghost Recon breakpoint recently and could only run it on LOW :|)

Other details Current part list - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7bq7cT

 

Hi Guys, been a good number of years since I built this rig now. Only real upgrade I've made in that time is the addition of an m.2 drive to run windows from. Conscious the memory/GPU specifically are probably starting to feel their age. I tried futureproofing the rest of the rig (massive power supply, massive case etc...) but the main components could do with swapping out. I wouldn't even rule out a new CPU.

 

Problem is, I haven't kept up with all of the tech in the last...7 years since I built this rig, so I'm at a total loss. 

 

Upgrade suggestions welcome please! Thanks in advance :)

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That's still a very capable system, but the main thing that's probably holding you back is the 980ti, I'd recommend a GeForce RTX 3070 or Radeon RX 6700xt (about 2x as powerful). 

You could sell the 980ti if it's in good condition for ~$250-$350 on eBay to recoup a bit of cost as well.

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Just now, MasteredDelta said:

I wouldn't recommend this. 

You'll see almost no performance increases between a 980ti and 1660 - heck, my non-TI EVGA GTX 980 SC at its stock factory OC beats the 1660 stock. 

I'd recommend just a newer GPU for current system.

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If there really is no real budget cap, I'd say fuck it, and just go for a 6700XT or something.

 

A 5600X doesn't need an X570 board, a B550 Tomahawk, or an Aorus Pro would be fine. Alternativly, the 11400f is still great for almost half the price, stick it in a B560 board, and it'll be just fine.

 

The CPU cooler probably needs to go, I doubt it has support for AM4, and liquid coolers do fail at some point. You could go with a liquid cooler again, but it's not neccessary as Ryzen is very easy to cool. A Noctua NH-D15S, NH-U12A, or even NH-U12S would be fine. Chromax if you hate the color.

 

I'm not a huge fan of the case, but it looks like does have some airflow, so it doesn't need to be replaced.

 

The power supply should probably be replaced though. I'm guessing the warranty is either already expired, or is about to anyway. With a 6700XT, a 600W PSU would be enough, you don't really need to overspend on a power supply.

 

Your use case wasn't very specific, so it's a bit hard to recommend anything in particular, but this should be pretty reasonable.

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5 minutes ago, Revioli said:

The CPU cooler probably needs to go, I doubt it has support for AM4, and liquid coolers do fail at some point. You could go with a liquid cooler again, but it's not neccessary as Ryzen is very easy to cool. A Noctua NH-D15S, NH-U12A, or even NH-U12S would be fine. Chromax if you hate the color.

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A bracket is cheaper than a whole cooler.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

A bracket is cheaper than a whole cooler.

If this liquid cooler is 7 years old, I wouldn't want it sitting in my PC anymore.

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Great suggestions, thanks guys. 

 

I really hadn't considered that the CPU cooler might be causing issues. I use speccy regularly, and I've never had a temp issue. Could it be causing lag on the overall system even if there are no warning signs? 

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22 hours ago, Mel0nMan said:

I wouldn't recommend this. 

You'll see almost no performance increases between a 980ti and 1660 - heck, my non-TI EVGA GTX 980 SC at its stock factory OC beats the 1660 stock. 

I'd recommend just a newer GPU for current system.

Also, considering your advise was that I still have a fairly capable system, this suggestion was an entirely new build haha.

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I would recommend going more than 6 cores for your next upgrade. This way you will get more of a "wow" experience. Going from 6 to 6 would probably not feel that different (yes I know current 6 cores are faster than the one he has). I feel like 8 would be ah that's nice upgrade, I would recommend going 12. I feel like that would be more of a wow upgrade.

 

If you want something stable, Ryzen 5000. The best would be 12th gen intel. GPU wise I would go with 6900xt, seems like it's been on good sales recently. 3090 if you really want the best current gpu.

 

Most of your components are actually still really good. You can keep ram, storage, PSU and case if you'd like. You only really need to change out CPU, mobo, and GPU.

 

Intel option:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£319.68 @ Newegg UK) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£189.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL15 Memory 
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£59.25 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial BX100 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£265.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£121.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£121.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB OC Formula Video Card  (£1219.20 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II ATX Full Tower Case 
Power Supply: Corsair HXi 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply 
Monitor: Asus TUF GAMING VG32VQ 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£349.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £2739.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-11-26 16:28 GMT+0000

 

AMD Option:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£395.52 @ Newegg UK) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£235.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL15 Memory 
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£59.25 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial BX100 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£265.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£121.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£121.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB OC Formula Video Card  (£1219.20 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II ATX Full Tower Case 
Power Supply: Corsair HXi 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply 
Monitor: Asus TUF GAMING VG32VQ 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£349.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £2860.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-11-26 16:32 GMT+0000

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23 hours ago, Twistedinc said:

Budget (including currency): No real cap

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Every day office usage during the day. Gaming wise, mostly survival games (tried playing Ghost Recon breakpoint recently and could only run it on LOW :|)

Other details Current part list - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7bq7cT

 

Hi Guys, been a good number of years since I built this rig now. Only real upgrade I've made in that time is the addition of an m.2 drive to run windows from. Conscious the memory/GPU specifically are probably starting to feel their age. I tried futureproofing the rest of the rig (massive power supply, massive case etc...) but the main components could do with swapping out. I wouldn't even rule out a new CPU.

 

Problem is, I haven't kept up with all of the tech in the last...7 years since I built this rig, so I'm at a total loss. 

 

Upgrade suggestions welcome please! Thanks in advance 🙂

Stick a new gpu into your current build and see what performance is like. You can always change the cpu/board later if you are still not happy. 

 

As for the cooler, if it isn't broken then don't fix it. There is no time limit that says you have to buy a new one after 'x' number of years.

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You can basically reuse everything other than the cpu, gpu, cooler, and board

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/w7ZDp2

Gpu wise since its uncapped you could prob get a 3090 but thats useless unless you game on 8k or whatever workloads that need 24gb vram, also top end tends to go obselete real fast anyways so id suggest a high end like the 3080 so it doesnt go obselete the next generation

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