Dedicated GPU hosting price

[MineSheep]

Hello, I could not find any subforum that could fit what i trying to ask so I will put it here. I am getting a ¨MSI Codex-R-10SC-004CA-R Gaming PC Factory Refurbished¨ and I am wondering what I could sell it for monthly as server hosting. I was planing around $100/month.
Specs:

- i5-10400F

- RTX 2060

- 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM

- 512GB NVMe

[Eigenvektor]

Take a look at Amazon's prices (AWS) for their compute machines.

 

Unless you can compete with them in terms of uptime, bandwidth and performance, I'd say offering a single PC as a rental isn't worth anyone's money.

[MineSheep]

3 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Take a look at Amazon's prices (AWS) for their compute machines.

 

Unless you can compete with them in terms of uptime, bandwidth and performance, I'd say offering a single PC as a rental isn't worth anyone's money.

I have started a small server hosting business and I have people waiting in line for a gpu server so I do have buyers. I can keep a good uptime and I have multiple other servers so I am not just a random person selling a single server. did that answer your question? Also I cant find the aws gpu pricing.

[dilpickle]

How are you running a business if you don't know pricing.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, MineSheep said:

Hello, I could not find any subforum that could fit what i trying to ask so I will put it here. I am getting a ¨MSI Codex-R-10SC-004CA-R Gaming PC Factory Refurbished¨ and I am wondering what I could sell it for monthly as server hosting. I was planing around $100/month.
Specs:

- i5-10400F

- RTX 2060

- 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM

- 512GB NVMe

When you say server hosting, are you talking about hosting a game server?  Like Minecraft or Ark or similar?

[MineSheep]

5 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

When you say server hosting, are you talking about hosting a game server?  Like Minecraft or Ark or similar?

Dedicated server hosting, you get access to the whole pc and all resources like a remote desktop.

[MineSheep]

38 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

How are you running a business if you don't know pricing.

Sorry? I couldnt find any dedicated server pricing online of any of the gpu or cpu specs so i decided to see what people would pay for these specs.

[RollinLower]

personally i wouldn't touch this PC as a server with a 10-meter stick. but whatever floats your boat i guess.

as for pricing? maybe 50 a month. but that highly depends on other factors of your hosting situation. is the PC just running in a garage somewhere?

[igormp]

Eh, that machine is pretty underwhelming for anything serious. If you want to take a look at other platforms where people throw their unused machines for rent, take a look at leadergpu.com or vast.ai

[MineSheep]

23 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

personally i wouldn't touch this PC as a server with a 10-meter stick. but whatever floats your boat i guess.

as for pricing? maybe 50 a month. but that highly depends on other factors of your hosting situation. is the PC just running in a garage somewhere?

I dont think I am asking the right community on there opinion. a dedicated server with these specs for $100/month is extremely cheap compared to different cpus with around the same performance. people could resell these servers or use this server as a gaming server and there are many people who would pay for that. no, I run it at my house, we only have 100mb/s due to the capacity of the tunnel but we can go up to 600mb/s. the tunnel offers us ipv4 for a price of $1.50 which I can resell and give us 13.5TB/s ddos protection.

[igormp]

18 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

I dont think I am asking the right community on there opinion. a dedicated server with these specs for $100/month is extremely cheap compared to different cpus with around the same performance. people could resell these servers or use this server as a gaming server and there are many people who would pay for that. no, I run it at my house, we only have 100mb/s due to the capacity of the tunnel but we can go up to 600mb/s. the tunnel offers us ipv4 for a price of $1.50 which I can resell and give us 13.5TB/s ddos protection.

hetzner has cheap options. And if one doesn't require uninterruptible compute, aws' spot/gcp's preemptible instances are cheaper too.

 

You're better off renting it to someone you know, or trying to offer it through a known compute-renting platform

[MineSheep]

21 minutes ago, igormp said:

hetzner has cheap options. And if one doesn't require uninterruptible compute, aws' spot/gcp's preemptible instances are cheaper too.

 

You're better off renting it to someone you know, or trying to offer it through a known compute-renting platform

I have a lot of people that are willing to buy and actually ran out of servers. Looking at the prices the specs for this pc is a lot cheaper then what I see on the market in terms of equal gpus. I have no problem (and other business have this problem) with finding customers XD something that I wouldn't of expected when making a server hosting business. I believe i could find someone to sell this to within a couple days, I just wanted to get other opions from other people on the price.

[RollinLower]

49 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

I dont think I am asking the right community on there opinion. a dedicated server with these specs for $100/month is extremely cheap compared to different cpus with around the same performance. people could resell these servers or use this server as a gaming server and there are many people who would pay for that. no, I run it at my house, we only have 100mb/s due to the capacity of the tunnel but we can go up to 600mb/s. the tunnel offers us ipv4 for a price of $1.50 which I can resell and give us 13.5TB/s ddos protection.

its not about the performance. people want hosting on servers for network/power redundancy and other guarantees you just cannot get on a desktop PC running in someones basement.

i work in a couple datacenters, so i know what proper hosting is like. also why i would pay 50 bucks max for a consumer-grade pc running in someon's house.

[MineSheep]

2 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

its not about the performance. people want hosting on servers for network/power redundancy and other guarantees you just cannot get on a desktop PC running in someones basement.

i work in a couple datacenters, so i know what proper hosting is like. also why i would pay 50 bucks max for a consumer-grade pc running in someon's house.

well if I get someone to pay $100/month it works for me. I understand what your saying. I have all the main features of hosting in a big data center and I dont see a difference from me hosting it in my house to me co-locating it to a data center?

[RollinLower]

2 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

well if I get someone to pay $100/month it works for me. I understand what your saying. I have all the main features of hosting in a big data center and I dont see a difference from me hosting it in my house to me co-locating it to a data center?

first things that come to my mind are:

- large UPS system

- backup generators

- multiple ISP's for true network redundancy

- multiple darkfibers to other datacenters for even further network redundancy

- active fire suppression

 

but, if someone is paying you 100 bucks already you'd be mad not to take it.

 

[MineSheep]

It seems like from gpu.userbenchmark.com that the 2060 is similar to the p5000. pricing for that with a xeon cpu on vast.io is $500+ a month. so I believe from that and another site I found which is a little under 500/month that $100/month is very much reasonable for these specs.

[Eigenvektor]

16 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

I have all the main features of hosting in a big data center…

So you have…

• physical security (e.g. intrusion detection, fire alarm and automatic extinguishing system)
• network redundancy (e.g. more than one ISP and a business plan with fast support in case of a network outage)
• disaster recovery plan (e.g. backup and recovery, second physical location in case of fire, earth quake, …)
• 24/7 support and monitoring
• insurance
• a customer contract
• a lawyer (in case you or your customer breach contract)

Take a look at AWS. They have all of that and more. If my business goes well and I need more GPUs AWS can give me that in a second. Can you scale up quickly when demand increases?

 

2 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

It seems like from gpu.userbenchmark.com that the 2060 is similar to the p5000. pricing for that with a xeon cpu on vast.io is $500+ a month. so I believe from that and another site I found which is a little under 500/month that $100/month is very much reasonable for these specs.

Don't just look at raw performance, Look at all of the other stuff a big hosters includes in that price. That's what you need to compete with.

[MineSheep]

3 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

first things that come to my mind are:

- large UPS system

- backup generators

- multiple ISP's for true network redundancy

- multiple darkfibers to other datacenters for even further network redundancy

- active fire suppression

 

but, if someone is paying you 100 bucks already you'd be mad not to take it.

 

I am working on multiple isps but the other options yes, I do not have. for a website you need up 24/7 I would not come to me but My servers are up 24/7 99.9% of the time, but there is that factor that something may happen to cause some down time. but I mean you have to start somewhere and collocation for me would be incompatible and raise my prices from what I see.

[MineSheep]

3 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

So you have…

• physical security (e.g. intrusion detection, fire alarm and automatic extinguishing system)
• network redundancy (e.g. more than one ISP and a business plan with fast support in case of a network outage)
• disaster recovery plan (e.g. backup and recovery, second physical location in case of fire, earth quake, …)
• 24/7 support and monitoring
• insurance
• a customer contract
• a lawyer (in case you or your customer breach contract)

Take a look at AWS. They have all of that and more. If my business goes well and I need more GPUs AWS can give me that in a second. Can you scale up quickly when demand increases?

 

Don't just look at raw performance, Look at all of the other stuff a big hosters includes in that price. That's what you need to compete with.

I started this business a month ago and I am at the point right now where I have to wait a month or two for my servers to make money and me being able to scale up, but after that it is exponential.

[igormp]

24 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

I have a lot of people that are willing to buy and actually ran out of servers. Looking at the prices the specs for this pc is a lot cheaper then what I see on the market in terms of equal gpus. I have no problem (and other business have this problem) with finding customers XD something that I wouldn't of expected when making a server hosting business. I believe i could find someone to sell this to within a couple days, I just wanted to get other opions from other people on the price.

If you can get someone to pay $100/mo, then what are you waiting for? As you've seen in this thread, most of us wouldn't pay that price.

 

2 minutes ago, MineSheep said:

It seems like from gpu.userbenchmark.com that the 2060 is similar to the p5000. pricing for that with a xeon cpu on vast.io is $500+ a month. so I believe from that and another site I found which is a little under 500/month that $100/month is very much reasonable for these specs.

You can't compare those, a 2060 is turing based and a p5000 is pascal, so no tensor cores and the newest compute features. Also, a 1080ti with a i7 7700 goes for ~$110:

[IkeaGnome]

What are your plans if:

Your power goes out.

Your internet goes out.

Your house catches fire or floods.

You have to do a backup. Where do you plan to keep those?

 

Do your ISP and electricity providers allow commercial use of their services?

 

[MineSheep]

most regular day consumers wouldn't need all those features, a business in the other hand would need all these features. so for my main target, regular day people, I would most likely be the option.

 

2 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

What are your plans if:

Your power goes out.

Your internet goes out.

Your house catches fire or floods.

You have to do a backup. Where do you plan to keep those?

 

Do your ISP and electricity providers allow commercial use of their services?

 

my power has gone out but not more then 10 or so minutes so not days or hours, but it is possible if it does and by that time it does go out I am already big enough of a business to go out and buy a building and all these features. My internet is pretty reliable havent seen it go out once on the isps end. My house has flooded before but only the basement, we are on top of a hill so most stuff will just run down, I live in the country side not in a town which is more likely. No, i do not have backups, if I did I will most likely get another 2nd location. yes they do allow for commercial use.

[MineSheep]

I think I will end the discussion here as I will try $100/month and if no buyers get it, I will lower it.

[LogicalDrm]

2 hours ago, MineSheep said:

I think I will end the discussion here as I will try $100/month and if no buyers get it, I will lower it.

Seems like you came to ask for validation, not opinions. The forums rarely work for that.

 

-> Moved to Servers and NAS

[Kilrah]

3 hours ago, MineSheep said:

It seems like from gpu.userbenchmark.com that the 2060 is similar to the p5000. pricing for that with a xeon cpu on vast.io is $500+ a month.

A Xeon and p5000 can be rented for $500 because you'll be able to virtualize multiple boxes on it, share GPU resources between these with IOMMU, you've got ECC for increased reliability,... your consumer platform doesn't allow that.