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Unless you are running heavy CPU loads, you won't see much of a difference between a 3600 and anything else, even when you get your new GPU at some point.

 

Save the money for an upgrade down the road. Or if you have the itch to do something with your PC, get a new case, new fans, upgrade/add SSDs, new CPU cooler, headphones/speakers, keyboard or mouse. Start playing with OCing, liquid metal applications etc etc. There's a lot of options, but IMO upgrading from a 3600 for gaming is a waste of money. Wait a few years for DDR5 to get main stream and upgrade your entire platform.

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If I can't manage to get a new GPU why not a new CPU. I was looking at the 5800x and was wondering if there where any cpus similar to it (Around the 300-350 price mark) that would be cheaper with comparable performance. I am going to have a 92mm noctua cromaxx cooler on it so I'm not very worried about temps. Any recomendations?

 

(Do note I'm just brainstorming rn)

If it helps I have a b550m (Mortar board) with a good 650w PSU and would be upgrading from a 3600.

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15 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

If I can't manage to get a new GPU why not a new CPU. I was looking at the 5800x and was wondering if there where any cpus similar to it (Around the 300-350 price mark) that would be cheaper with comparable performance. I am going to have a 92mm noctua cromaxx cooler on it so I'm not very worried about temps. Any recomendations?

 

(Do note I'm just brainstorming rn)

If it helps I have a b550m (Mortar board) with a good 650w PSU and would be upgrading from a 3600.

 Thanks 🙂

Does your current system not give you the performance you want? The 3600 isnt that old, and still is a great chip.

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What do you do with this system? As a 5800x owner I can tell you its about the worst thing you could upgrade to. If you play games? 5600x. If you do multi-threaded content/media creation? 5900x. The 5800x makes little sense. 

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Unless you are running heavy CPU loads, you won't see much of a difference between a 3600 and anything else, even when you get your new GPU at some point.

 

Save the money for an upgrade down the road. Or if you have the itch to do something with your PC, get a new case, new fans, upgrade/add SSDs, new CPU cooler, headphones/speakers, keyboard or mouse. Start playing with OCing, liquid metal applications etc etc. There's a lot of options, but IMO upgrading from a 3600 for gaming is a waste of money. Wait a few years for DDR5 to get main stream and upgrade your entire platform.

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On 11/3/2021 at 2:25 PM, Demonic Donut said:

Unless you are running heavy CPU loads, you won't see much of a difference between a 3600 and anything else, even when you get your new GPU at some point.

 

Save the money for an upgrade down the road. Or if you have the itch to do something with your PC, get a new case, new fans, upgrade/add SSDs, new CPU cooler, headphones/speakers, keyboard or mouse. Start playing with OCing, liquid metal applications etc etc. There's a lot of options, but IMO upgrading from a 3600 for gaming is a waste of money. Wait a few years for DDR5 to get main stream and upgrade your entire platform.

Awesome intel.  I have a R5 3600 and a 3070 FE on B550 and see the instore MicroCenter prices today for 5600X (279) and 5800X (329).  I am just curious if I should jump on that, or wait for the new Zen 4 (which I would assume would be a new platform).  

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What's your monitor

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On 11/3/2021 at 12:05 PM, rickeo said:

What do you do with this system? As a 5800x owner I can tell you its about the worst thing you could upgrade to. If you play games? 5600x. If you do multi-threaded content/media creation? 5900x. The 5800x makes little sense. 

On 11/3/2021 at 12:25 PM, Demonic Donut said:

There's a lot of options, but IMO upgrading from a 3600 for gaming is a waste of money.

On the other hand, I had an early 3600 in my system prior to the 5800X I have now, and it was NOT very good. If I wanted to have music playing in the background while gaming, that was enough to cause significant microstutter. Upgraded the CPU only, and it went away. I also was unable to do any significant overclocking on the 3600, but can get 5GHz all-core on the 5800X, but I probably just got a golden sample.

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I've still not upgraded my 3600x there's just no point, I use my PC for gaming and watching comparison videos on YouTube of 3600x vs 5600X and 5800x there's little to no difference in gaming performance between them

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7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

On the other hand, I had an early 3600 in my system prior to the 5800X I have now, and it was NOT very good. If I wanted to have music playing in the background while gaming, that was enough to cause significant microstutter. Upgraded the CPU only, and it went away. I also was unable to do any significant overclocking on the 3600, but can get 5GHz all-core on the 5800X, but I probably just got a golden sample.

In pure performance context yes, its obviously much faster. I was more talking in a performance per dollar perspective. Music playing in the background while gaming doesn't take much horsepower.. hell I was doing that in 10 years ago or more. Sounds like in your particular case you had a software conflict of some sort and weren't lacking for CPU power.

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1 hour ago, rickeo said:

In pure performance context yes, its obviously much faster. I was more talking in a performance per dollar perspective. Music playing in the background while gaming doesn't take much horsepower.. hell I was doing that in 10 years ago or more. Sounds like in your particular case you had a software conflict of some sort and weren't lacking for CPU power.

Was gonna say...I am a multi-monitor user and the only time I ever got any type of FPS impact was when playing 1440p+ videos on a secondary display. I set them to 1080p or 720p anyway, since most of the time I am just listening or only somewhat watching.

 

Sometimes youtube or web-based live chat could cause weird FPS problems too, for some reason. Although I think this has more to do with displays having different refresh rates.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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14 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

What's your monitor

AORUS Gigabyte FV43U 4K 43"

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16 minutes ago, Shizzmoney said:

AORUS Gigabyte FV43U 4K 43"

If you're playing 4k, 3600 is going to be more than enough

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On 11/10/2021 at 7:37 AM, rickeo said:

Sounds like in your particular case you had a software conflict of some sort and weren't lacking for CPU power.

It wasn't software. The CPU itself is one of the earliest batches, to the point that it really can do ANY overclocking, because it's lower-quality silicon.

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Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

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