dlss DLSS with Minecraft

[Guest]

Is DLSS good in Minecraft Java edition?

 

literally don't know, I don't even own the card yet, which is why I want to be sure

[RONOTHAN##]

Last I checked only Bedrock supported DLSS. In there its great, but don't think you can use it with Java edition.

[Guest]

Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

Last I checked only Bedrock supported DLSS. In there its great, but don't think you can use it with Java edition.

that's rough

[jaslion]

10 minutes ago, Finnegan1616 said:

Is DLSS good in Minecraft Java edition?

 

literally don't know, I don't even own the card yet, which is why I want to be sure

Java edition doesn't have it.

[Jurrunio]

The only ray tracing mod in Minecraft Java does not use DLSS nor RTX specific stuff, just CUDA cores. 

 

DLSS in bedrock is excellent, but blocky game like this is the best scenario it will have as far as games go so it'd better be good.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

The only ray tracing mod in Minecraft Java does not use DLSS nor RTX specific stuff, just CUDA cores. 

 

DLSS in bedrock is excellent, but blocky game like this is the best scenario it will have as far as games go so it'd better be good.

I really hope java adds it some day lol

[BobVonBob]

4 minutes ago, Finnegan1616 said:

I really hope java adds it some day lol

It isn't needed in the Java version. Unless you're running incredibly heavy shaders Java Minecraft is CPU bound at all times. Any card capable of DLSS will still be CPU bound at native 4K.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

It isn't needed in the Java version. Unless you're running incredibly heavy shaders Java Minecraft is CPU bound at all times. Any card capable of DLSS will still be CPU bound at native 4K.

but won't it help make it easier to render, since it renders the game in 1080p, then upscales it to 4k, meaning the CPU has to do like 4x less work?

[BobVonBob]

Just now, Finnegan1616 said:

but won't it help make it easier to render, since it renders the game in 1080p, then upscales it to 4k, meaning the CPU has to do like 4x less work?

Nope. Only a small part of what the CPU does is related to rendering the game, and that part is mostly independent of the render resolution.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, BobVonBob said:

Nope. Only a small part of what the CPU does is related to rendering the game, and that part is mostly independent of the render resolution.

what if I upgraded to a 12900k, isn't the single-threading on that supposed to be really good?

 

something around the realm of this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdDjt8

 

you think this would help?

[arcadeblood]

On 10/6/2021 at 11:58 PM, Guest said:

what if I upgraded to a 12900k, isn't the single-threading on that supposed to be really good?

 

something around the realm of this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdDjt8

 

you think this would help?

Bruh, if you want max single core performance, you generally want to go with less cores. The best single core performance for stock intel have i7 12700k, not i9.
If you can make a good oc then obvoius winner is i5 12600k. [as comercially avaible up to this day (20.07.22r)].
And there is also a hack for overclockers that if you oc ring on i5 10600k, it can even outperform stock i9 from the same gen. Don't know if it works in later gen. Never had nor needed one.

 if cpu usage is a neglible margin, single core performance is even less-er margin. Look at your cpu usage in game.

But the thing is that dlss could be useful for, for example seus shaders. They are super heavy, so every bit of performance counts.

[arcadeblood]

On 10/6/2021 at 11:24 PM, Jurrunio said:

The only ray tracing mod in Minecraft Java does not use DLSS nor RTX specific stuff, just CUDA cores. 

 

DLSS in bedrock is excellent, but blocky game like this is the best scenario it will have as far as games go so it'd better be good.

There is not one raytracing shader in minecraft. 
Seus is the most recognizable, and it doesn't even use Cuda cores, the newest version uses whatever you have, beside intel gpu.
But there's also raspberry/mollyvx, continuum rt, sildur's, chocapic's, and recently apollo rt. And probably some that I missed.
Most of them don't really need cuda cores. Even if they are technically made on/for cuda cores, the effect on amd cards is often basically the same.

[Jurrunio]

4 hours ago, arcadeblood said:

There is not one raytracing shader in minecraft. 
Seus is the most recognizable, and it doesn't even use Cuda cores, the newest version uses whatever you have, beside intel gpu.
But there's also raspberry/mollyvx, continuum rt, sildur's, chocapic's, and recently apollo rt. And probably some that I missed.
Most of them don't really need cuda cores. Even if they are technically made on/for cuda cores, the effect on amd cards is often basically the same.

A year ago, when I wrote that, SEUS PTGI only supports Nvidia (which means others will be a hit or miss experience). Good to know AMD cards work with it today.

 

4 hours ago, arcadeblood said:

Bruh, if you want max single core performance, you generally want to go with less cores. The best single core performance for stock intel have i7 12700k, not i9.

That couldnt be futher from the truth, the higher core count models are always binned better and have more cache so they are faster in single core performance as well. The only assumptions here are to run them without the power limit getting in the way and enough cooling to keep temperatures down.

[Paultimate]

On 7/19/2022 at 4:13 PM, arcadeblood said:

Bruh, if you want max single core performance, you generally want to go with less cores. The best single core performance for stock intel have i7 12700k, not i9.
If you can make a good oc then obvoius winner is i5 12600k. [as comercially avaible up to this day (20.07.22r)].
And there is also a hack for overclockers that if you oc ring on i5 10600k, it can even outperform stock i9 from the same gen. Don't know if it works in later gen. Never had nor needed one.

 if cpu usage is a neglible margin, single core performance is even less-er margin. Look at your cpu usage in game.

But the thing is that dlss could be useful for, for example seus shaders. They are super heavy, so every bit of performance counts.

Please stay off these forums with moronic posts like this. Its 2023. We have easy access to a dozen sites that show us what has the best single core performance. Those CPUs also overclock better. We dont need room temp IQ posts like your muddying the waters because you love your mid i5. You have a lot of things to educate yourself on how things actually work, minecraft included, bruh.