Is my PC "smart enough" to run 3200Mhz instead of 3600Mhz?

[TMobile]

Hello people!

 

Got some new RAM today (the new Corsair Vengeance RGB RT): CMN32GX4M2Z3600C16 

Installed this in my system and enabled DOCP.

Import stuff are a Asus B450-F Strix mobo and Ryzen 2600. I know the "max" Ram-speed is commonly 3200Mhz for the R5 2600. Although my ram is 3600Mhz it shows as running as 3200Mhz. Is this some kind of failsafe?

 

Or am I missing something?

 

ps. ignore drawing skills

HWinfo

 

CPU-Z

[jwwagner25]

what does BIOS say?

[YoungBlade]

Some 2nd gen Ryzen do have issues going above 3200, but some can go to 3600 if you're lucky. It could be that you have to manually put in the speed on the board, because Asus knew this limitation and configured the board to default to the lower speed so that a not-so-savvy user didn't get stuck in a boot loop after just enabling DOCP.

[TMobile]

4 minutes ago, jwwagner25 said:

what does BIOS say?

This might've fixed the "issue". Just checked and for some reason 3200 was selected in Bios instead of 3600. Was running 16gb at 2933 previously so not sure how that happened.

Currently HWinfo shows:

Assuming the difference between 1802 and 1796.1 doesn't matter.

 

CPU-Z:

^ still showing 3200 tho

[KnoT]

Make a screen shot of this: https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

 

Timings you have are rly bad for 3600 btw.

[YoungBlade]

2 minutes ago, KnoT said:

Make a screen shot of this: https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

 

Timings you have are rly bad for 3600 btw.

16-20-20-38 is pretty typical for what I've seen

[KnoT]

1 minute ago, YoungBlade said:

16-20-20-38 is pretty typical for what I've seen

I would think CL16-18-18-38 is more of a standard for none Samsung B Die

[TMobile]

5 minutes ago, KnoT said:

Make a screen shot of this: https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

 

Timings you have are rly bad for 3600 btw.

[YoungBlade]

Just now, KnoT said:

I would think CL16-18-18-38 is more of a standard for none Samsung B Die

That's for 3200. Most 3600 is actually CL18, with good ones at CL16 and the best at CL14

[KnoT]

Just now, YoungBlade said:

That's for 3200. Most 3600 is actually CL18, with good ones at CL16 and the best at CL14

Cheapo Crucial Ballistix 3600 are CL16-18-18-38 while 3000/3200 are CL15-16-16-35.

[TMobile]

Either way, it seems to be running at 3600 (as of currently). Any good tests to run? I've been out of the loop for quite some time.

[KnoT]

3 minutes ago, TMobile said:

Well ignoring the timings 1800 On Gear 1 is quite good.

[YoungBlade]

1 minute ago, KnoT said:

Cheapo Crucial Ballistix 3600 are CL16-18-18-38 while 3000/3200 are CL15-16-16-35.

That "cheapo" is 30% more expensive than the competing CL18

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, TMobile said:

Hello people!

 

Got some new RAM today (the new Corsair Vengeance RGB RT): CMN32GX4M2Z3600C16 

Installed this in my system and enabled DOCP.

Import stuff are a Asus B450-F Strix mobo and Ryzen 2600. I know the "max" Ram-speed is commonly 3200Mhz for the R5 2600. Although my ram is 3600Mhz it shows as running as 3200Mhz. Is this some kind of failsafe?

 

Or am I missing something?

 

ps. ignore drawing skills

HWinfo

 

 

CPU-Z

 

It's not a "fail safe" the board will automatically train the memory. Be happy it didn't use the Jedec timing sets for 3200mt/s.

 

That said, the 2600 has a top memory controller frequency of 2933mt/s, so you are overclocked. 

 

You can leave XMP enabled, but just below it, set DRAM frequency to 3600mt/s and see if it posts up.

If it does not, wait for 3 restart attempts, the board will post in safe mode. If this happens, then you know 3600mt/s isn't meant to be on your rig (without user intervention which could become a headache it's self).

 

Good Luck!

[KnoT]

5 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

That "cheapo" is 30% more expensive than the competing CL18

 

No RGB tho  1USD = ~3.96zl

[TMobile]

Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

It's not a "fail safe" the board will automatically train the memory. Be happy it didn't use the Jedec timing sets for 3200mt/s.

 

That said, the 2600 has a top memory controller frequency of 2933mt/s, so you are overclocked. 

 

You can leave XMP enabled, but just below it, set DRAM frequency to 3600mt/s and see if it posts up.

If it does not, wait for 3 restart attempts, the board will post in safe mode. If this happens, then you know 3600mt/s isn't meant to be on your rig (without user intervention which could become a headache it's self).

 

Good Luck!

did this, seems to be @ 3600Mhz currently (see a few posts in with updated ss's)

[KnoT]

6 minutes ago, TMobile said:

Either way, it seems to be running at 3600 (as of currently). Any good tests to run? I've been out of the loop for quite some time.

You can start easy with Cinebench R20/23 then AIDA64 mem benchmark then Linpack Xtreme

[Guest]

Just now, TMobile said:

did this, seems to be @ 3600Mhz currently (see a few posts in with updated ss's)

Then you're good. Rock it out unless it's unstable, then you can revert back to 3200mt/s and just increase it incrementally until unstable. Then you know where you should be.

 

The best testing is just using it IMO> you can stress test and what not, but real life use is always more accurate. It's tough to simulate gaming, even with benchmarks. But doing both is good too.