RTX 3070 Ti getting shutdowns with Seasonic Focus GX-750 (Mfg. date Oct 2020) (Also with Corsair RM1000x [2021])

[seresusly]

Would you guys know if the Focus GX-750 is adequate for my RTX 3070 Ti?

 

I got three random shutdowns two days ago (Sept 18) while stress testing, and I don't know if it's the power supply. So far I haven't had any shutdowns since then

 

My return window closes on Sept 23.

 

I read in the PSU tier list at the start of this thread that this make and model was free of the RTX 3000 series shutdowns. Manufacturing date was Oct 2020.

 

Any advice? Should I return this and buy an RM850x (2021)?

 

Update: I'm also getting random shutdowns on a Corsair RM1000x.

[Jeppes]

Stress testing what? Gpu or cpu? Have you tried without oc and xmp?

[seresusly]

1 minute ago, Jeppes said:

Stress testing what? Gpu or cpu? Have you tried without oc and xmp?

I was running prime95 and furmark at the same time. System has been stable for at least a year before the Gigabyte RTX 3070 ti and Seasonic GX-750 upgrade. (Used to be on a Zotac GTX 1070 and Seasonic M12ii Evo 620w). RAM has been stable at 3600 MHz CL 16 for the same period, validated with Karhu Ram Test 20000%.

[SavageNeo]

7 hours ago, seresusly said:

Seasonic GX-750 upgrade.

well, thats the one. some people may get it to work with their 3070ti/3080 and some not. try to undervolt the cpu and gpu and try running those benchamrks again

[seresusly]

30 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

well, thats the one. some people may get it to work with their 3070ti/3080 and some not. try to undervolt the cpu and gpu and try running those benchamrks again

I thought the post-2018 revisions didn't have this problem anymore?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, seresusly said:

I thought the post-2018 revisions didn't have this problem anymore?

I don't think anyone ever confirmed this.  Maybe with the Vega issue, but I've seen post-2018 Seasonic PSUs still shut down with Ampere even when the load is well under the OPP threshold.

 

[seresusly]

11 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

I don't think anyone ever confirmed this.  Maybe with the Vega issue, but I've seen post-2018 Seasonic PSUs still shut down with Ampere even when the load is well under the OPP threshold.

 

Aw man that sucks, so in your best opinion should I return this and get an RM850x/RM1000x? Or will it just be as likely to shutdown under load?

 

Are there any PSUs that are confirmed to not shutdown with Ampere then?

 

So far the past two days my Focus GX-750 hasn't shut down anymore.

[SavageNeo]

25 minutes ago, seresusly said:

Aw man that sucks, so in your best opinion should I return this and get an RM850x/RM1000x? Or will it just be as likely to shutdown under load?

 

Are there any PSUs that are confirmed to not shutdown with Ampere then?

 

So far the past two days my Focus GX-750 hasn't shut down anymore.

rm850x will run with 3070ti, someone here did run 3080 with rm650x. also where are your from, and what shops do you use/prefer?

[seresusly]

23 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

rm850x will run with 3070ti, someone here did run 3080 with rm650x. also where are your from, and what shops do you use/prefer?

I'm from the Philippines, but I'll be getting the RM850x/RM1000x from Amazon. I got the SeaSonic GX-750 locally. I'm still torn on whether I should return this seasonic or not. Like I said it hasn't happened again, maybe those three shutdowns were isolated instances.

[SavageNeo]

42 minutes ago, seresusly said:

maybe those three shutdowns were isolated instances.

if ti deos nto happen again, keep the gx, otherwise replace it

[Jeppes]

If it does it on gpu load only you might have traced it to psu. CPU:s and memory controllers degrade over time if oc'd too far so always test stock.

[seresusly]

Update it crashed again, I think I will return the GX-750 and buy a Corsair RM1000x.

[IIIIIIIIII]

2 hours ago, seresusly said:

Update it crashed again, I think I will return the GX-750 and buy a Corsair RM1000x.

You don't need 1000w, but anyway the RMx is a better product than the Focus.

[seresusly]

40 minutes ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

You don't need 1000w, but anyway the RMx is a better product than the Focus.

I just hope this solves my crashing issues.

[Bagerian]

@seresusly Have you replaced the PSU? and if yes - did it help? I have similar spec PC (RTX 3070 & Seasonic Focus GX-750) and it reboots while playing graphically demanding games.... : /

 

 

[Juular]

10 hours ago, Bagerian said:

and it reboots

Reboots and shutdowns are two different things. Shutdown is PSU issue, reboot likely isn't.

[freeagent]

Mine was made in November or December, no problems. You sure its the PSU? What have you done with your ram? XMP, tuned, stock? Ryzen is pretty sensitive to unstable ram, and acts the same way as you describe.

 

If you are running P95 and Furmark, it is not the PSU's fault that you are exceeding its capabilities. EVGA says 750w min for my card, I can easily pull 680 from the wall with out those two known power virus programs. Shit my 3770K and 980 Classified can pull 700w from the wall running Furmark and Linpack Xtreme.

[seresusly]

On 10/3/2021 at 5:01 AM, Bagerian said:

@seresusly Have you replaced the PSU? and if yes - did it help? I have similar spec PC (RTX 3070 & Seasonic Focus GX-750) and it reboots while playing graphically demanding games.... : /

 

 

I replaced it with a Corsair RM1000x that I got two days ago, and so far it hasn't been shutting down.

16 hours ago, Juular said:

Reboots and shutdowns are two different things. Shutdown is PSU issue, reboot likely isn't.

Do you mean if it's a PSU issue the computer won't power on automatically after a shutdown? I think motherboards by default set to power on after a power loss though.

10 hours ago, freeagent said:

Mine was made in November or December, no problems. You sure its the PSU? What have you done with your ram? XMP, tuned, stock? Ryzen is pretty sensitive to unstable ram, and acts the same way as you describe.

 

If you are running P95 and Furmark, it is not the PSU's fault that you are exceeding its capabilities. EVGA says 750w min for my card, I can easily pull 680 from the wall with out those two known power virus programs. Shit my 3770K and 980 Classified can pull 700w from the wall running Furmark and Linpack Xtreme.

I don't know about unstable OC's. They'd cause blue screens not shutdowns/reboots (i.e. with no BSODs).

[Juular]

3 hours ago, seresusly said:

I think motherboards by default set to power on after a power loss though.

Yes, if a PSU lets them. In case of tripped protection (whether it's OCP or UVP which seem to be main causes of tripping with high-transient power draw GPUs) the PSU would be latched off, you'd have to flick the power switch off/on to be able to start the PC again. But i've seen some cases of PSU indeed being the cause anyway because a new PSU fixed it, despite user having restarts, not shutdowns, maybe that's your case too.

[seresusly]

Update I still got a random shutdown with my Corsair RM1000x. Any thoughts?

[--SID--]

5 minutes ago, seresusly said:

Update I still got a random shutdown with my Corsair RM1000x. Any thoughts?

What CPU, motherboard and RAM? Brand and model.

[seresusly]

10 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

What CPU, motherboard and RAM? Brand and model.

Ryzen 5 5600X

MSI B450M Mortar

Patriot Viper RGB 3200 C16 H5AN8G8N[C/J/D]JR-TFC running @ 3600 MHz CL 16 - PVR416G320C6K 

[--SID--]

Latest BIOS installed on the motherboard?

 

Remove RAM OC!

[seresusly]

9 hours ago, --SID-- said:

Latest BIOS installed on the motherboard?

 

Remove RAM OC!

Okay will try this, thank you!

[Juular]

On 10/8/2021 at 6:24 PM, seresusly said:

Update I still got a random shutdown with my Corsair RM1000x. Any thoughts?

Okay, so it's not a PSU issue after all.