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so im saving up for a gpu and myself ive been thinking of getting an 1080 or 1080 ti to replace my r9 390x because it isnt good enough for what i do the main thing  i do with my pc is stream games mostly minecraft because im too scared my streams will lag out when i play diffrent games i currently have a ryzen 5 3600 and 16gb of 3200mhz ran and a rx750x for my psu.

 

is an 1080 or 1080 ti a good upgrade or should i get something else for around the same price.

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If you can obtain a 3060TI or 6600XT I would recommend that above a 1080TI. 

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Get something newer. For what you'll pay for a 1080ti it just isn't worth it

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3 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

If you can obtain a 3060TI or 6600XT I would recommend that above a 1080TI. 

 

2 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

Get something newer. For what you'll pay for a 1080ti it just isn't worth it

i dont need it now i probally have enough in like 6 months when the prices are down and i think 1080 ti's will be cheaper then 3060 ti's or am i wrong

 

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3 minutes ago, kes2006 said:

 

i dont need it now i probally have enough in like 6 months when the prices are down and i think 1080 ti's will be cheaper then 3060 ti's or am i wrong

 

It's all speculation. Personally, I don't think prices will recover by then, but I hope I get proven wrong. Also, a lot can change in 6 months, especially since by then Intel's Arc GPUs will have launched, and if they can keep things in stock with competitive prices, it might be your best bet. 

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Dont hold on to the idea that prices will drop..at least not alot.

 

You may get near or actually down to MSRP, but the MSRP will still be a tier higher than it should be.

 

Nvidia and AMD have pushed performance tiers to higher price brackets, resulting in £/$1000+ xx80ti's and £/$700 lower cards.

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1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It's all speculation. Personally, I don't think prices will recover by then, but I hope I get proven wrong. Also, a lot can change in 6 months, especially since by then Intel's Arc GPUs will have launched, and if they can keep things in stock with competitive prices, it might be your best bet. 

I’m not in a rush I’m not even shure if I have enough by then I’ll try and wait as long as I can for the prices to go down 

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4 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Dont hold on to the idea that prices will drop..at least not alot.

 

You may get near or actually down to MSRP, but the MSRP will still be a tier higher than it should be.

 

Nvidia and AMD have pushed performance tiers to higher price brackets, resulting in £/$1000+ xx80ti's and £/$700 lower cards.

I’m not expecting the prices to go down I’m just hoping it will

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I'd still buy a newer card if it were me. God only knows what that 1080ti has been thru 

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