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what does /The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU/ mean?

atramentous

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wHVNrr

 

basically since this mobo has only one m.2 slot from what i know, and i am just completely confused as to whether or not my nvme ssd will work.

 

chose the 560m bc for like 13 bucks more i don't have to worry about buying used shit from ebay (they're all like 40 bucks over msrp for some reason.)

 

i'll be upgrading to a 11900k and z590-i later. i just need this to work for now. i have all other parts that i need.

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oh i found this:

 

M.2 Slots
2242/2260/2280 M-key (Intel Rocket Lake-based CPUs only)
2280 M-key
2230 E-key

 

so what does this mean?

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It means that the top M.2 slot will only work if you have a Rocket based CPU (11th gen CPUs) becasue they can use certain lanes in the motherboard to communicate with the ssd.

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Just now, char3327 said:

It means that the top M.2 slot will only work if you have a Rocket based CPU (11th gen CPUs) becasue they can use certain lanes in the motherboard to communicate with the ssd.

so are there other ones or is that one the only one (like some sort of all in one?)

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3 minutes ago, atramentous said:

basically since this mobo has only one m.2 slot

This motherboard does have two M.2 slots

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The top one will probably be disabled with that CPU, don't know why, but I guess that's the way ASRock set it up.

4 minutes ago, atramentous said:

i'll be upgrading to a 11900k and z590-i later

I wouldn't call that much of an upgrade, since you're losing two cores and not gaining that much in IPC.

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Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

This motherboard does have two M.2 slots

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The top one will probably be disabled with that CPU, don't know why, but I guess that's the way ASRock set it up.

I wouldn't call that much of an upgrade, since you're losing two cores and not gaining that much in IPC.

i agree sadly. i wanted to go with a 3900x but it doesnt have any white mini itx motherboards

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6 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The top one will probably be disabled with that CPU, don't know why, but I guess that's the way ASRock set it up.

Rocket Lake CPUs have 20 PCIe lanes (16 for PCIe slot + 4 for M.2) just like Ryzen, Comet Lake has 16 just like older Intel LGA 115x CPUs.

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7 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

This motherboard does have two M.2 slots

image.png.72c0dda3644416f4bb83a7eef42d3530.png

The top one will probably be disabled with that CPU, don't know why, but I guess that's the way ASRock set it up.

I wouldn't call that much of an upgrade, since you're losing two cores and not gaining that much in IPC.

is https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NzKwxc better? idea is to upgrade to an itx and 5950x down the line (like about a year) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQyQqp

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1 minute ago, comander said:

RKL supports PCIe 4.0 and more lanes. The top slot is PCIe 4.0  and uses those extra lanes. The bottom slot is likely PCIe 3.0. Possibly 2.0. 

 

 

As an FYI, Alderlake is out in a month... ADL is basically the biggest jump Intel has had since Conroe in 2006 from the look of things. Up to 2x the MT performance along with better ST performance than AMD has. 

yeah but it won't be compatible with lga 1200, and mobos for it will be expensive w ddr5

 

(at least this is what i read)

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1 minute ago, atramentous said:

is https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NzKwxc better? idea is to upgrade to an itx and 5950x down the line (like about a year) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQyQqp

Yes, but also no. There is no way I'd put a 12 core CPU on an A320 board. Those things can barely handle 6 cores and have a tendancy to die. Plus they're practically worthless on the second hand market. It's worth spending the extra $20-40 on a decent B450 board and running that instead.

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1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Yes, but also no. There is no way I'd put a 12 core CPU on an A320 board. Those things can barely handle 6 cores and have a tendancy to die. Plus they're practically worthless on the second hand market. It's worth spending the extra $20-40 on a decent B450 board and running that instead.

thanks! i know vv little about mobos and this is useful

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It's likely a mis-read of the manual,

 

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PCIe gen 4 is not supported by 10th gen.

 

Either way NVMe support is available with M2_2.

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Just now, svmlegacy said:

It's likely a mis-read of the manual,

 

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PCIe gen 4 is not supported by 10th gen.

 

Either way NVMe support is available with M2_2.

what does pcie g4 have to do with m.2? i thought it was for the gpu?

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Just now, atramentous said:

what does pcie g4 have to do with m.2? i thought it was for the gpu?

Well, turns out I was wrong about the slot... it is disabled with a 10th gen CPU.

 

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Either way, there are PCIe 4.0 SSD's on the market, for example the WD SN850, Samsung 980 PRO, Crucial P5 Plus...

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Secondary: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, 16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4, Fedora 38 x86_64

Server: AMD Athlon PRO 3125GE, 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 ECC, TrueNAS Core 13.0-U5.1

Home Laptop: Intel Core i5-L16G7, 8 GB 4267 MHz LPDDR4x, Windows 11 Home 22H2 x86_64

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