Holdover SFF Build

[Qub3d]

Budget (including currency): $1500

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft (Modded), Destiny 2, Blender animations

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I have a current setup consisting of an XPS 13 (2018 Model, i7-8550) with a 1070 eGPU. I have found that this is starting to CPU bottleneck pretty hard, as a 4-core U series processor is just not enough any more. GPU prices are nuts, so I will be using the 1070 in my new build until they normalize.

 

I really like the NZXT H1, and before you point me to the GamersNexus video, I am aware, they have replaced that riser with a new part that has proper isolation and grounding.

My main request for input: Is the 5800X good enough as a render machine? I don't do a ton of rendering, but I'd like something that doesn't take 30 minutes to render a single frame at 1080p.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($169.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: NZXT H1 ($349.99)
Custom: H1 AIO Cooler ($0.00)
Custom: H1 SFX 650W PSU ($0.00)
Total: $1207.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-22 00:31 EDT-0400

Edited August 22, 2021 by Qub3d
swapped SSD

[Somerandomtechyboi]

4 minutes ago, Qub3d said:

I really like the NZXT H1, and before you point me to the GamersNexus video, I am aware, they have replaced that riser with a new part that has proper isolation and grounding.

Considering its an sff build and nzxt cases tend to be pc baking ovens with no airflow, good luck getting any acceptable temps and not outright throttling esp since its an sff build

 

5 minutes ago, Qub3d said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($169.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($338.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: NZXT H1 ($349.99)
Custom: H1 AIO Cooler ($0.00)
Custom: H1 SFX 650W PSU ($0.00)
Total: $1433.91

Ditch the obselete ssd for a mushkin pilot e cause its much much cheaper than that overpriced obselete 970 evo

 

Other than the case and the obselete ssd it seems like a decent build

[Qub3d]

15 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Considering its an sff build and nzxt cases tend to be pc baking ovens with no airflow, good luck getting any acceptable temps and not outright throttling esp since its an sff build

I've used NZXT cases before and found them just fine. Where did you come of the opinion that they have bad airflow? Also, SFF isn't exactly a huge field for good airflow...
 

I will take a look at the SSD recommendation. Thanks!

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, Qub3d said:

I've used NZXT cases before and found them just fine. Also, SFF isn't exactly a huge field for good airflow...

P200a?

Nr200?

 

Just make sure your airflow is good alr, that will make sure your temps are ok and your components are not throttling, actually by the looks of it the h1 isnt a pc baking oven since theres alot of mesh, so you might be ok here, not the best airflow but far better than a pc bake oven

 

Tbh idk why alot of ppl keep buying the 970 evo when its basically obselete and faster, cheaper ssds have already superceeded it such as the pilot e that i suggested

[Qub3d]

21 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Just make sure your airflow is good alr, that will make sure your temps are ok and your components are not throttling, actually by the looks of it the h1 isnt a pc baking oven since theres alot of mesh, so you might be ok here, not the best airflow but far better than a pc bake oven

 

Tbh idk why alot of ppl keep buying the 970 evo when its basically obselete and faster, cheaper ssds have already superceeded it such as the pilot e that i suggested

The case is an interesting design - it actually comes with a 140mm AIO cooler:
 

As for the SSD - I'd guess brand name? It was by far the most popular choice on PcPartPicker. Its also well battle-tested.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

1 hour ago, Qub3d said:

Budget (including currency): $1500

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft (Modded), Destiny 2, Blender animations

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I have a current setup consisting of an XPS 13 (2018 Model, i7-8550) with a 1070 eGPU. I have found that this is starting to CPU bottleneck pretty hard, as a 4-core U series processor is just not enough any more. GPU prices are nuts, so I will be using the 1070 in my new build until they normalize.

 

I really like the NZXT H1, and before you point me to the GamersNexus video, I am aware, they have replaced that riser with a new part that has proper isolation and grounding.

My main request for input: Is the 5800X good enough as a render machine? I don't do a ton of rendering, but I'd like something that doesn't take 30 minutes to render a single frame at 1080p.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($169.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: NZXT H1 ($349.99)
Custom: H1 AIO Cooler ($0.00)
Custom: H1 SFX 650W PSU ($0.00)
Total: $1207.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-22 00:31 EDT-0400

 

A faster cpu will definitely speed things up. 

 

Though it still depends on what you are rendering, cycles with load of volumetric or heavy SSS will slow things down dramatically. So we can't know for sure. 

If you have the cash for it, get a 5950x, if not the 5800x will do fine. Also choose a motherboard with stronger vrm like the Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX.

 

Having said that, I don't recommend the h1 for high power gpu and cpus unless you go the custom cooling route. 

 

A build with the nr200 and arctic 280mm aio will be much more optimal. 

 

[Qub3d]

14 hours ago, Kinda Bottlenecked said:

A build with the nr200 and arctic 280mm aio will be much more optimal.

You're the second to recommend the NR200. I guess I better look into it!

 

Any reason you like the Arctic AIO in particular? Its all just asatek under the hood for these coolers AFAIK.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

4 hours ago, Qub3d said:

You're the second to recommend the NR200. I guess I better look into it!

 

Any reason you like the Arctic AIO in particular? Its all just asatek under the hood for these coolers AFAIK.

 

Its the highest performing cooler thats fitting for a 5950x. Liquid freezer II is asetek but benchmarks put them on the top.

 

 

Though if you don't want to go with an aio, the thermalright frost commander 140 fits into the nr200 non tg with the middle fan swapped to a 120mm one. 

 

You can get away with the much cheaper thermalright pa120 with the 5800x. 

 

I have a pa120 for my 5900x on stock auto boost, I get 80*C max during rendering. 

[Qub3d]

@Kinda BottleneckedOne final question for you. I looked at someone else who built in the NR200 with the arctic cooler, and while it fit, they really had to bend the crap out of the AIO tubes. Is this a problem long-term?

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

5 hours ago, Qub3d said:

@Kinda BottleneckedOne final question for you. I looked at someone else who built in the NR200 with the arctic cooler, and while it fit, they really had to bend the crap out of the AIO tubes. Is this a problem long-term?

 

Theoretically no but no one can say for sure since even normally installed aios can be damaged prematurely. Arctic hasn't said anything about this so I guess its fine. You can always choose another aio.