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Is it dumb to upgrade cpu or should I just go with a nice ssd?

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R5 1600 non af, (14nm)

stock cooler

asrock steel legend b450

16gb ram

gtx 1080

1tb sata Samsung 860 evo

1tb 7200rpm hdd

650w psu 

 

Would it be stupid to upgrade to something like a 5600x, or is that too good compared to my gpu? Also, other than a bios update I’d still be able to stick with my current motherboard, right? If a 5600x is not the smartest choice, what less powerful cpu should I get? I don’t want to spend more than about 300 in general. I mainly surf the web, play games (pretty demanding ones at times though) do folding@home and occasionally stream but very rarely. 

 

 I could also just get myself a nice 2tb nvme ssd. 

 

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Depends if you're able to run games fine now. If you can get way better fps than your monitor refresh rate with settings your happy with, then there's literally no point. I still have my R5 1600X from 2017 (full specs in sig) and I can run games fine.

 

It's a really bad time to upgrade your GPU now because of pricing and supply. Honestly, if you can wait, I would.

PC Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700
RAM: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40
Storage: Boot Drive: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

               Other Storage: Mass Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM, Western Digital Caviar Blue 2TB 5400 RPM, Scratch Disk: Intel X25-E SSDSA2SH032G1 32GB SATA II SSD, Backup Drive: Seagate ST3160318AS 160GB HDD
GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB ROG STRIX GAMING OC
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower
PSU: Silverstone Strider Platinum S 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX
OS: Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit
Monitors: Primary: Samsung S34E790C 34" 3440*1440 60 Hz UWQHD; Secondary: LG 34UM58-P 34" 2560*1080 75 Hz UWFHD; Tertiary: BenQ GL2460 24" 1920*1080 60 Hz FHD

Keyboard: Corsair K70 Mk. 2 RGB Gaming Keyboard - Black

Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS Gaming Mouse - Black, Logitech MX Master 3

Headphones: Corsair VOID PRO Surround Cherry 7.1ch

Speakers: Logitech Z213 7W 2.1ch

 

Laptop:

Asus Zenbook Pro 15 (UX535Li-E2018T) with Intel Core i7-10750-H 12MB @ 2.60GHz (Turbo @ 5.0 GHz), 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2933 MHz SODIMM and Intel(R) UHD Graphics; NVidia Geforce GTX 1650-Ti with Max-Q Design, using WDC NVMe PC SN730 SDBPNTY-1T00-1102, on a 96-Wh battery

 

NAS Specs:

Make & Model: QNAP TS-1277

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 @Stock

Hard Drives: x8 WD Red 2TB

SSDs (2.5"): x1 Samsung 850 Evo 250GB V-NAND (cache drive)

M.2 SSDs: None

RAID Configuration: RAID 6 (excluding SSD)

Total Storage: 12TB

Expansion Cards: None

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15 minutes ago, chi_chi_ said:

Would it be stupid to upgrade to something like a 5600x

The multi-generational jump will almost certainly result in improved performance, unless your GPU is pegged at 100% all the time in the games you play most. In fact, the improved memory controller will let you get an improved overclock on your ram if you go for it.

 

The question is if you will benefit from more CPU performance. If you have a 1080p 60Hz monitor, you won't exactly need tons of CPU horsepower.

 

Also, the 860 Evo is something I would consider a "nice SSD" to be honest so I don't think you need to target that as an upgrade just yet.

15 minutes ago, chi_chi_ said:

Also, other than a bios update I’d still be able to stick with my current motherboard, right?

Yes

 

15 minutes ago, chi_chi_ said:

If a 5600x is not the smartest choice, what less powerful cpu should I get?

If you want more CPU performance, but not as much as possible, the Ryzen 5 3600 and any of its brethren are still really good CPUs. The PCs that I have built with them are not performing poorly for their respective owners, and all are being used for 144FPS gaming.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

If you have a 1080p 60Hz monitor, you won't exactly need tons of CPU horsepower

It's the other way around. Lower resolution means your gpu has an easier job. So you're more likely to be bottlenecked by your CPU.

 

But I still agree, a GTX 1080 is perfectly capable.

PC Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700
RAM: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40
Storage: Boot Drive: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

               Other Storage: Mass Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM, Western Digital Caviar Blue 2TB 5400 RPM, Scratch Disk: Intel X25-E SSDSA2SH032G1 32GB SATA II SSD, Backup Drive: Seagate ST3160318AS 160GB HDD
GPU: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB ROG STRIX GAMING OC
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower
PSU: Silverstone Strider Platinum S 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX
OS: Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit
Monitors: Primary: Samsung S34E790C 34" 3440*1440 60 Hz UWQHD; Secondary: LG 34UM58-P 34" 2560*1080 75 Hz UWFHD; Tertiary: BenQ GL2460 24" 1920*1080 60 Hz FHD

Keyboard: Corsair K70 Mk. 2 RGB Gaming Keyboard - Black

Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro RGB FPS Gaming Mouse - Black, Logitech MX Master 3

Headphones: Corsair VOID PRO Surround Cherry 7.1ch

Speakers: Logitech Z213 7W 2.1ch

 

Laptop:

Asus Zenbook Pro 15 (UX535Li-E2018T) with Intel Core i7-10750-H 12MB @ 2.60GHz (Turbo @ 5.0 GHz), 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2933 MHz SODIMM and Intel(R) UHD Graphics; NVidia Geforce GTX 1650-Ti with Max-Q Design, using WDC NVMe PC SN730 SDBPNTY-1T00-1102, on a 96-Wh battery

 

NAS Specs:

Make & Model: QNAP TS-1277

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 @Stock

Hard Drives: x8 WD Red 2TB

SSDs (2.5"): x1 Samsung 850 Evo 250GB V-NAND (cache drive)

M.2 SSDs: None

RAID Configuration: RAID 6 (excluding SSD)

Total Storage: 12TB

Expansion Cards: None

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1 minute ago, Hugs12343 said:

It's the other way around. Lower resolution means your gpu has an easier job. So you're more likely to be bottlenecked by your CPU.

That's not what I mean. I was referring to the fact that if OP is using a low refresh rate monitor, a CPU of greater magnitude is probably not going to provide a tangible benefit.

 

I only use 1080p as an example because it's pretty uncommon for a gamer to buy a 1440p 60Hz monitor.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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upgrading CPU and GPU? soon depending on what you want.

But also what comes soon, new spec of tech like DDR5 etc. So if you want to wait, although the prices on the 5000 CPUs seems to go down and way longer for GPU prices (although MB being more expensive and can be complicated). Right now the CPU will become a bottleneck then your GPU if you upgrade to 5000. and I guess your RAM speed isn't that great or maybe it is.

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51 minutes ago, chi_chi_ said:

R5 1600 non af, (14nm)

stock cooler

asrock steel legend b450

16gb ram

gtx 1080

1tb sata Samsung 860 evo

1tb 7200rpm hdd

650w psu 

CPU definitely. you really cant tell SATA v NvME in standard use case scenario and you can tell a big FPS hop in 1080p on a better CPU.

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Upgrade the cpu and the cpu cooler, for sure. Maybe upgrade the storage, to have a m.2 nvme ssd as your boot drive, later on. I also know this is a little over the $300 mark, but the cooler is very much worth it.

 

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18 hours ago, GeorgeMKane said:

Upgrade the cpu and the cpu cooler, for sure. Maybe upgrade the storage, to have a m.2 nvme ssd as your boot drive, later on. I also know this is a little over the $300 mark, but the cooler is very much worth it.

 

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I’m gonna be getting an aio in the future, any recommendations? I was thinking the arctic freezer ii 240mm, due to high performance, really good price, and idc about rgb and stuff

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1 hour ago, chi_chi_ said:

I’m gonna be getting an aio in the future, any recommendations? I was thinking the arctic freezer ii 240mm, due to high performance, really good price, and idc about rgb and stuff

Dont bother with an aio unless you want to overclock or want extreme silence

 

Liquid freezer are pretty good tho, but most aios will prob die around 3-5 years so if you really dont need the cooling or extreme silence, you can just get a decent air cooler like the fuma 2

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@Somerandomtechyboi I do like playing around with overclocks but even with amds pretty decent stock coolers you can imagine that I can’t really do much with them. Yeah I would like to over clock+ I do think that aios also just look really nice. Silence isn’t a problem with me

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40 minutes ago, chi_chi_ said:

@Somerandomtechyboi I do like playing around with overclocks but even with amds pretty decent stock coolers you can imagine that I can’t really do much with them. Yeah I would like to over clock+ I do think that aios also just look really nice. Silence isn’t a problem with me

actually AIO could be a decent choice depending on size.

for 5600 it can do better than stock, seeing there are some limitations with the current stock cooler although somewhat better than intel's.

Also could be neat if it lasts long and can be used for future builds if newer generations will fit.

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