Ryzen 5 3600 temperature - normal ?

[Mikey89]

So ussually in games my CPU temp is about 67-70'C.

 

CPU is Ryzen 5 3600

 

Today when i was playing NFS Heat i noticed it was 71'C and then it spiked quickly from 71'C to 81'C and then immediately it dropped from 81'C to 71'C.

 

Is this normal ? I checked again a few times and it was still 71'C while playing but what about that spike ?

 

Also how do i know if it stayed continuously like 10-15 minutes at 81'C all the time or if that was just a spike ?

 

Any way i could find out if there were multiple spikes ?

 

I would greatly appreciate if anyone could shed some light on this.

[Freakwise]

What cooler is it?

If it's stock cooler then it's "normal" and totally fine

[Mikey89]

Just now, Freakwise said:

What cooler is it?

If it's stock cooler then it's "normal" and totally fine

@Freakwise

 

I'm using a BE QUIET! Shadow Rock LP

[CallumOKane]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

@Freakwise

 

I'm using a BE QUIET! Shadow Rock LP

How much CPU is being utilized while gaming, and is it just the games utilising it? You can monitor this via task manager.

[Freakwise]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

@Freakwise

 

I'm using a BE QUIET! Shadow Rock LP

It was some what expected really, and I'd say it's perfectly fine

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, CallumOKane said:

How much CPU is being utilized while gaming, and is it just the games utilising it? You can monitor this via task manager.

I don't know, i haven't checked.

[Freakwise]

12 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Any way i could find out if there were multiple spikes ?

Iirc you could use hwinfo to make a log of cpu temps, though don't ask me on the specific

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, Freakwise said:

It was some what expected really, and I'd say it's perfectly fine

Sorry i'm not exactly an expert, but what do you mean ?

 

Some adițional info maybe it helps : the cooler is 5 years old, i've had it before in my FX 8300

[Freakwise]

5 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Sorry i'm not exactly an expert, but what do you mean ?

 

Some adițional info maybe it helps : the cooler is 5 years old, i've had it before in my FX 8300

Oh sorry, I'm little bit misread your post 

 

What i mean was those temperature is fine considering youre using shadow rock lp as a cooler and temperature spike is normal thing 

 

 

And like i said in my previous post you can log cpu temps using hwinfo

 

 

[Mikey89]

19 minutes ago, CallumOKane said:

How much CPU is being utilized while gaming, and is it just the games utilising it? You can monitor this via task manager.

@CallumOKane

 

I have no idea, how much should my CPU be utilized while gaming ?

 

I did notice though that CPU fan when gaming is at 100% - not sure if this helps or not.

[LauriHimself]

19 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Also how do i know if it stayed continuously like 10-15 minutes at 81'C all the time or if that was just a spike

first of all: what's your ambient temperature?

 

that spiking is normal, as the die is slightly off center, those spikes usually happen when a core closer to the edge of the cooler is stressed.

about the temp: 81c is a lil high, but nothing to worry about.

given that you are using that Shadow Rock LP those temps are absolutely where i would expect them

 

about HWinfo:

you just start the program, and it will give you "current" "min" "max" and "average" temps.

 

[Mikey89]

6 minutes ago, Freakwise said:

Oh sorry, I'm little bit misread your post 

 

What i mean was those temperature is fine considering youre using shadow rock lp as a cooler and temperature spike is normal thing 

 

 

And like i said in my previous post you can log cpu temps using hwinfo

 

 

@Freakwise

 

Is BE QUIET! Shadow Rock LP a bad CPU cooler ?

 

Also how much should my CPU be utilized while gaming ?

 

Sorry for asking but i literally have no idea.

 

I did notice though that CPU fan is at 100% when gaming - not sure if this info helps or not.

[Freakwise]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

Is BE QUIET! Shadow Rock LP a bad CPU cooler ?

Well not it's not necessarily a bad cooler, i mean it keeps your cpu temps under 90c under load 

 

3 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Also how much should my CPU be utilized while gaming ?

Its hard to answer as i didn't know how much "X" cpu will get utilized on "X" games, so yeah, it's pretty hard for me to answer although my rule of thumb is that it shouldn't be below 40 to 50%

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@Freakwise

 

Is BE QUIET! Shadow Rock LP a bad CPU cooler ?

 

Also how much should my CPU be utilized while gaming ?

 

Sorry for asking but i literally have no idea.

 

I did notice though that CPU fan is at 100% when gaming

It's not a bad cooler, it's just not a high performance cooler. Its advantage is that it's a low profile cooler. If you can fit a bigger cooler, it's probably going to be a better option (I wouldn't bother though, your temps aren't that bad).

 

Ideally it should be 100% CPU and 100% GPU, however that's very rare. It really depends on the game. Doom Eternal I'd expect somewhere around 30-40% total CPU, while Civilization VI I'd expect closer to 80-90% (numbers will be a bit off). 

 

100% CPU fan usually means the cooling isn't quite adequate. It might just be the thermal paste application isn't great, so that would be what I consider first before getting a new cooler. Case airflow might be another area to look at, if all your filters are clogged that can be causing higher than idea temps. 

[Mikey89]

4 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It's not a bad cooler, it's just not a high performance cooler. Its advantage is that it's a low profile cooler. If you can fit a bigger cooler, it's probably going to be a better option (I wouldn't bother though, your temps aren't that bad).

 

Ideally it should be 100% CPU and 100% GPU, however that's very rare. It really depends on the game. Doom Eternal I'd expect somewhere around 30-40% total CPU, while Civilization VI I'd expect closer to 80-90% (numbers will be a bit off). 

 

100% CPU fan usually means the cooling isn't quite adequate. It might just be the thermal paste application isn't great, so that would be what I consider first before getting a new cooler. Case airflow might be another area to look at, if all your filters are clogged that can be causing higher than idea temps. 

@RONOTHAN##

 

PC case is Cooler Master Masterbox MB511 RGB and i have 6 fans on it :

 

- 3 front intake 

- 2 top exhaust 

- 1 rear exhaust 

 

This is the first time i ever saw a spike.

 

Will i damage my CPU If i continue to use my current cooler ?

 

Also CPU is 1 month old.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Will i damage my CPU If i continue to use my current cooler ?

If it only went to 81, you're fine. If it goes above 90C, that's when you have a problem. You might be losing out on some performance with higher temperatures, but it's not that big a deal. The stock cooler keeps it at roughly these temperatures, so the CPU is definitely fine running at them for its rated lifespan. 

4 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

PC case is Cooler Master Masterbox MB511 RGB and i have 6 fans on it :

 

- 3 front intake 

- 2 top exhaust 

- 1 rear exhaust 

That should be a pretty good cooling setup, that case isn't that choked for airflow. 

[Dedayog]

For context, gents...

 

1 rear exhaust + 2 top exhaust = possible ? - Page 12 - Graphics Cards - Linus Tech Tips

 

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

If it only went to 81, you're fine. If it goes above 90C, that's when you have a problem. You might be losing out on some performance with higher temperatures, but it's not that big a deal. The stock cooler keeps it at roughly these temperatures, so the CPU is definitely fine running at them for its rated lifespan. 

That should be a pretty good cooling setup, that case isn't that choked for airflow. 

Well that's what i thought as well regarding nu case and cooling.

 

But does that mean the CPU cooler is struggling even with said case and cooling ?

 

Should i look into getting a new CPU cooler ? If yes can you recommend some good ones ?

[Mikey89]

4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

For context, gents...

 

1 rear exhaust + 2 top exhaust = possible ? - Page 12 - Graphics Cards - Linus Tech Tips

 

Thanks, that will surely help now... LOL 

 

I know that thread will makes it seem like i'm paranoid guys but believe i'm only asking cuz i'm concerned about my CPU.

 

 

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Well that's what i thought as well regarding nu case and cooling.

 

But does that mean the CPU cooler is struggling even with said case and cooling ?

 

Should i look into getting a new CPU cooler ? If yes can you recommend some good ones ?

Go 360mm AIO or Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15.

[RONOTHAN##]

4 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Well that's what i thought as well regarding nu case and cooling.

 

But does that mean the CPU cooler is struggling even with said case and cooling ?

 

Should i look into getting a new CPU cooler ? If yes can you recommend some good ones ?

I'd only bother looking into getting a new cooler if it becomes a problem for you. If you want the extra performance and extra peace of mind that your components are better cooled, the Hyper 212 is a great cooler for a cheap price. If you want the best you can get, go with what @Dedayog suggested and get an AIO or one of Noctua's bigger coolers. However, the biggest cooler you will probably need to go is a Noctua NH-U12S, but even that will be overkill for your CPU. 

[Freakwise]

4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Go 360mm AIO or Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15.

Isn't that bit overkill for 3600?

[Mikey89]

6 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I'd only bother looking into getting a new cooler if it becomes a problem for you. If you want the extra performance and extra peace of mind that your components are better cooled, the Hyper 212 is a great cooler for a cheap price. If you want the best you can get, go with what @Dedayog suggested and get an AIO or one of Noctua's bigger coolers. However, the biggest cooler you will probably need to go is a Noctua NH-U12S, but even that will be overkill for your CPU. 

@RONOTHAN##

 

Well regarding performance, the CPU wasn't underperforming i'd say... i mean i was getting really good 100FPS with no drops and on max settings.

 

I'm just concerned, will i damage my CPU If i continue using my current Shadow Rock LP ?

 

Will Noctua NH-D15 or BE QUIET! Dark Rock Pro 4 even fit inside my case ?

 

They seem really big what i saw when i googled them.

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

Will Noctua NH-D15 or BE QUIET! Dark Rock Pro 4 even fit inside my case ?

 

They seem really big what i saw when i googled them.

It might be tight, but looking at the official dimensions they will fit (just barely). However, you don't need that big of a cooler for a 3600. 

[Mikey89]

3 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It might be tight, but looking at the official dimensions they will fit (just barely). However, you don't need that big of a cooler for a 3600. 

@RONOTHAN##

 

My CPU wasn't underperforming, i was actually getting 100FPS with max settings.

 

Will i damage my CPU though If i continue using my current Shadow Rock LP ?

 

I'd rather stick with my current cooler i think.