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Computer just does not feel that fast

missing1981

Hi I am new to the forum

 

I have been working on my system but it just does not feel fast do any of you guys see any weak links with my specs

 

Thanks

CPU:           Intel Core i9-10900X (Cascade Lake-X, L1)
               3700 MHz (37.00x100.0) @ 4500 MHz (45.00x100.0)
Motherboard:   ASUS TUF X299 MARK 2
BIOS:          3006, 02/07/2020
Chipset:       Intel X299 (Kaby Lake)
Memory:        32768 MBytes @ 1466 MHz, 15-17-17-35
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
Graphics:      EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming (11G-P4-2487)
               NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, 11264 MB GDDR6 SDRAM
Drive:         SanDisk SDSSDP256G, 250.1 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB, 488.4 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         SAMSUNG HD103UJ, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 3Gb/s
Drive:         WDC WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB, 500.1 GB, NVMe
Drive:         Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB, 488.4 GB, NVMe
Drive:         HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH14NS40, BD-RE
Sound:         Creative SB Recon3D PCIe Audio Controller
Sound:         NVIDIA TU102 - High Definition Audio Controller
Network:       Intel Ethernet Connection I219-V
OS:            Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.985 (20H2)

Cinebench Multi 14425
Cinebench Single 1181 (ratio 12.21x)
3D Mark (Time Spy) 14383   http://www.3dmark.com/spy/20416241
PC Mark (Express)5569   http://www.3dmark.com/pcm10eb/60059

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Your RAM. You've got 2133 MT/s RAM and that is definitely holding you back.

Upgrade to 3200 or 3600 C16.

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There's also a point where it wont feel any faster, if your monitor is 60Hz, as the time it takes to display what its doing is the same.

Upgrading to a higher refresh monitor makes your PC feel MUCH more responsive in the general UI itself, as you see it reacting faster.

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4 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Your RAM. You've got 2133 MT/s RAM and that is definitely holding you back.

Upgrade to 3200 or 3600 C16.

do you have any brand recomdations (RGB would be nice but not a necessary) 

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1 minute ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

There's also a point where it wont feel any faster, if your monitor is 60Hz, as the time it takes to display what its doing is the same.

Upgrading to a higher refresh monitor makes your PC feel MUCH more responsive in the general UI itself, as you see it reacting faster.

i have an Acer Predator  XB27HU 1440p @ 144 Hz

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4 hours ago, FakeKGB said:

Your RAM. You've got 2133 MT/s RAM and that is definitely holding you back.

Upgrade to 3200 or 3600 C16.

It's quad channel HEDT. His (and my) puny slow RAM has more bandwidth than your uber gamer 3600MHz setup 🙂 EDIT: also he's OC'd it

 

Which of these manyy drives hold what?

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Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED

 

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3 hours ago, Kilrah said:

It's quad channel HEDT. His (and my) puny 2133MHz RAM has more bandwidth than your uber gamer 3600MHz setup 🙂

 

Which of these manyy drives hold what?

Drive:         Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB, 488.4 GB, NVMe Windows

Drive:         Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB, 500.1 GB, NVMe Main Games (steam, blizzard)


Drive:         Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB, 488.4 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s Apps

Drive:         SanDisk SDSSDP256G, 250.1 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s  Docs

 

Drive:         SAMSUNG HD103UJ, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 3Gb/s crap removing soon


Drive:         WDC WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s Downloads ( Changing to a 2tb evo 970 plus )

 

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Nothing looking wrong then.

 

At worst the OS might be corrupted/bloated and a reinstall might help, but otherwise I'd just say wrong expectations (and we need a better definition of "not feeling fast" to understand).

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Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max

Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case

 

Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED

 

GPD Win 2

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Please explain what you actually mean? What is your issue, in which games, what settings and so on. Just specs alone tell hardly anything.

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It feels like it is very sluggish in windows when clicking on folders bus the main problem is in games like Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War it seems to take ages to load and that icons in the store take forever to load and I would expect more than 80 fps on ultra settings at 1440 p with Ray tracing on and DLSS on to compensate for it

 

I may just be a noob and that is normal for my system spec and if so when I have saved my pennies (and you can actually get hold of one I want a RTX 3090 hopefully a Ti version by then it's going to be over a year till there available at least)

 

but thanks for everyone's advice

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Ray tracing on 20 series is slooooooow compared to 30 series, not surprising there. Been widely considered as "hey, this is what you're going to be able to have in the future, but for now it's useless since the performance is so bad".

 

If responsiveness is bad in Windows then it's likely a software issue.

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Desktop: i9-13900K, ASUS Z790-E, 64GB DDR5-6000 CL36, RTX3080, 2TB MP600 Pro XT, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Antec Vortex 360 AIO, Thermaltake Versa H25 TG, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max

Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200Pro RAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan), Custom 4.7l 3D printed case

 

Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED

 

GPD Win 2

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19 hours ago, missing1981 said:

It feels like it is very sluggish in windows when clicking on folders bus the main problem is in games like Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War it seems to take ages to load and that icons in the store take forever to load and I would expect more than 80 fps on ultra settings at 1440 p with Ray tracing on and DLSS on to compensate for it

 

I may just be a noob and that is normal for my system spec and if so when I have saved my pennies (and you can actually get hold of one I want a RTX 3090 hopefully a Ti version by then it's going to be over a year till there available at least)

 

but thanks for everyone's advice

Slowness in loading could indicate something wrong with drives the OS or games are installed on. Or software issue with Windows like @Kilrah said. For example some updates may cause such issues, could be also some background process or even malware.

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22 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

Slowness in loading could indicate something wrong with drives the OS or games are installed on. Or software issue with Windows like @Kilrah said. For example some updates may cause such issues, could be also some background process or even malware.

I am using a clean install windows 10 no malware 

I will run some benchmarks and post results

maybe I'm just expecting more than there is

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On 5/17/2021 at 12:25 PM, missing1981 said:

Hi I am new to the forum

 

I have been working on my system but it just does not feel fast do any of you guys see any weak links with my specs

 

Thanks

CPU:           Intel Core i9-10900X (Cascade Lake-X, L1)
               3700 MHz (37.00x100.0) @ 4500 MHz (45.00x100.0)
Motherboard:   ASUS TUF X299 MARK 2
BIOS:          3006, 02/07/2020
Chipset:       Intel X299 (Kaby Lake)
Memory:        32768 MBytes @ 1466 MHz, 15-17-17-35
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
               - 8192 MB PC17000 DDR4 SDRAM - Corsair DOMINATOR® PLATINUM
Graphics:      EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming (11G-P4-2487)
               NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, 11264 MB GDDR6 SDRAM
Drive:         SanDisk SDSSDP256G, 250.1 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB, 488.4 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         SAMSUNG HD103UJ, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 3Gb/s
Drive:         WDC WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive:         Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB, 500.1 GB, NVMe
Drive:         Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB, 488.4 GB, NVMe
Drive:         HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH14NS40, BD-RE
Sound:         Creative SB Recon3D PCIe Audio Controller
Sound:         NVIDIA TU102 - High Definition Audio Controller
Network:       Intel Ethernet Connection I219-V
OS:            Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19042.985 (20H2)

You have the makings of a very nice system, and as Kilrah said it could be the RAM (speed?).

 

Also, ray trading really isn't worth the performance hit.

 

Turn it off, and you should get a very nice frame rate at 1440p...especially if you enable DLSS.

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On 5/17/2021 at 9:12 PM, missing1981 said:

Drive:         Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB, 488.4 GB, NVMe Windows

Drive:         Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB, 500.1 GB, NVMe Main Games (steam, blizzard)


Drive:         Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB, 488.4 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s Apps

Drive:         SanDisk SDSSDP256G, 250.1 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s  Docs

 

Drive:         SAMSUNG HD103UJ, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 3Gb/s crap removing soon


Drive:         WDC WD20EZRZ-00Z5HB0, 1953.5 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s Downloads ( Changing to a 2tb evo 970 plus )

 

change your boot drive to the 2tb 970 evo plus when you get it, it has 1GB of SDRAM as opposed to 512 megs on the 500gb 970 evo plus

if anything, it would help somewhat

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20 hours ago, missing1981 said:

I am using a clean install windows 10 no malware 

I will run some benchmarks and post results

maybe I'm just expecting more than there is

then try uninstalling it, download a fresh copy check the sha256 of the iso and install it again

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Thanks for your help everyone 

I will get the 2TB evo plus (maby 2)

and 32GB of Memory Quad Channel kit (just not sure which one yet)  maby https://www.ebuyer.com/772409-g-skill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-kit-ddr4-cl16-3466mhz-ram-f4-3466c16q-32gtzr

Going to rip out the old mechanical drives 

and wait forever for a rtx 3090 lol

 

lets see how that helps

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6 hours ago, missing1981 said:

Thanks for your help everyone 

I will get the 2TB evo plus (maby 2)

and 32GB of Memory Quad Channel kit (just not sure which one yet)  maby https://www.ebuyer.com/772409-g-skill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-kit-ddr4-cl16-3466mhz-ram-f4-3466c16q-32gtzr

Going to rip out the old mechanical drives 

and wait forever for a rtx 3090 lol

 

lets see how that helps

what did you pay for all your components, just curious. and what do u aim to get a 3090 for, also which 3090, reference, or which AIB

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19 hours ago, Stark Odinson said:

what did you pay for all your components, just curious. and what do u aim to get a 3090 for, also which 3090, reference, or which AIB

EVGA Card im hoping a FTW3 will be out by then

need it for Gaming and some video editing  

 

i have been thinking about getting a threadripper and using this as a secondary pc we will see depends on costs and availability 

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