My 1st time buying/building. Any advice?

[Pina_Koala]

Budget (including currency): $1250.00

Country: U.S.

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mainly CS:GO and few other games I play with friends, college classes next year

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HVQHF8

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($31.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Adorama) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($92.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.28 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.00 @ ASUS) 
Total: $1094.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-05 14:26 EDT-0400

 

Hey LTT forums, I'm going off to college next year and wanted to build a pc this summer that will last me for that time. My graduation and birthday are this summer and my parents have agreed to pay for a graphics card if I can pay for the rest of the parts. I told them that if they cant find a 3060 ti then a 3060 or 2070/60 super would be ok for now. I want a little rgb, but not crazy. This is my first time doing all this so I had a couple of questions too before I buy: 

 

1. Is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO able to overclock i7-9700k. If not, is the MSI MAG 360R good choice?

2. Do I need a better than 650W PSU if i'm going to oc?

3. Any advice for building?

 

 

[Red_Fox_1293]

dont get 9700k because no hyper threading. also i've used hyper 212 evo don't really like. so get 9900k and your other aio

[dean_5234]

6 minutes ago, Red_Fox_1293 said:

dont get 9700k because no hyper threading. also i've used hyper 212 evo don't really like. so get 9900k and your other aio

Not a 9900k. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-11600KF 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$249.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI Z590-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$189.99 @ Amazon
Memory	ADATA XPG GAMMIX D20 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$81.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ Western Digital
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$74.95 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan	$13.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan	$13.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor	$199.00 @ ASUS
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1063.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-05 14:54 EDT-0400

Get this. The 11600K smashes a 9700K and is more futureproof and just as fast as a 9900k. 

The Fuma 2 will allow for a decent OC.

The p360a and fans will be good airflow

[Downkey]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor	$429.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$139.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$82.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$60.45 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$500.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	MSI 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$89.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor	$199.00 @ ASUS
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1651.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-05 14:57 EDT-0400

 

[iMxmo]

Theres no real point in buying a 9th gen cpu when newer products such as 5600x or 11400 exist with hyper threading and better overall performance. The cooler choice is quite a bit odd as well considering it's poor performing sleeve bearing and not worth it @ 32 USD whatsoever. LPX is as always overpriced and there are much better kits for cheaper. The ssd is just as overpriced.. For 134 USD you can get an SSD just as high-end and 500GB more. 

Just saw @davemc and @Downkeymake some lists for you. Honestly either option is a great choice. It depends on your budget entirely though. If you were to ask me though I'd go with Downkeys build - PCPartPicker Part List
If you have the budget for it of course

[SupaKomputa]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($304.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($31.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M BAZOOKA MAX WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.94 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($92.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Western Digital) 
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.00 @ ASUS) 
Total: $1090.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-05 14:59 EDT-0400

[iMxmo]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($304.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($31.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M BAZOOKA MAX WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.94 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($92.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Western Digital) 
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.00 @ ASUS) 
Total: $1090.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-05 14:59 EDT-0400

definetely wouldn't go for this. 3700x gets outperformed/performs similar to the 11400 @ 180 USD and outperformed by the 5600x (same price) The ram is overpriced and there are better options for cheaper (in terms of XMP/stability) Along with the poor performing/value cooler and the B450 board.  

[SupaKomputa]

59 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

definetely wouldn't go for this. 3700x gets outperformed/performs similar to the 11400 @ 180 USD and outperformed by the 5600x (same price) The ram is overpriced and there are better options for cheaper (in terms of XMP/stability) Along with the poor performing/value cooler and the B450 board.  

I would happily go for 5600x if it's available. 212 is enough for 3700x / 5600x.

B450 boards are heavily discounted, a Bazooka for $80? that's a steal.

[iMxmo]

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

I would happily go for 5600x if it's available. 212 is enough for 3700x / 5600x.

B450 boards are heavily discounted, a Bazooka for $80? that's a steal.

11400 is an option for similar performance, 212 is enough but there r better options (bearing and noise normalized performance) for a similar price point. b450 baoozka for 80 usd is a good deal i cant argue with that
Edit: 11400 is almost 120 USD cheaper along with B560 hdv- 85 usd (msrp) should be a lot cheaper if not readily available b560 pro4 (110=120 usd) is also an option

[Pina_Koala]

2 hours ago, iCypticx said:

Theres no real point in buying a 9th gen cpu when newer products such as 5600x or 11400 exist with hyper threading and better overall performance. The cooler choice is quite a bit odd as well considering it's poor performing sleeve bearing and not worth it @ 32 USD whatsoever. LPX is as always overpriced and there are much better kits for cheaper. The ssd is just as overpriced.. For 134 USD you can get an SSD just as high-end and 500GB more. 

Just saw @davemc and @Downkeymake some lists for you. Honestly either option is a great choice. It depends on your budget entirely though. If you were to ask me though I'd go with Downkeys build - PCPartPicker Part List
If you have the budget for it of course

Thanks for the help! I did all my research in class on a school Chromebook, which blocked most of the reliable cites. I wanted the cooler because I started with less budget and never changed it. I also looked at WD blue ssd. Do you think cache matters because thats the only difference between it and 970 evo?

[iMxmo]

1 minute ago, Pina_Koala said:

Thanks for the help! I did all my research in class on a school Chromebook, which blocked most of the reliable cites. I wanted the cooler because I started with less budget and never changed it. I also looked at WD blue ssd. Do you think cache matters because thats the only difference between it and 970 evo?

cache isnt the only difference, nand type and controllers are also different. 970 evo is a fast ssd granted but i doubt you'll be using those speeds for your work load. just use an mp33 512GB // 1TB

[Pina_Koala]

This is my final product if anyone is going to look at it:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnkMHz

CPU: Intel Core i5-11600KF 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORE LIQUID 360R 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Adorama) 
Motherboard: MSI Z590-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($82.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Team MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($91.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($86.54 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.00 @ ASUS) 
Total: $1100.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-05 21:56 EDT-0400

 

I'm going to front mount the aio and use included phanteks fans as exhaust.