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I just need to shrink down my case and system in general.. maybe micro-itx or what is the name of the size between itx and mini itx

If you wanted an expansion slot you could go M-ATX and get like a Tuf B550M

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Hello there, 
I've been struggling with deciding whether or not I should upgrade my CPU right now or wait for AMD to move to AM5 and DDR5. 
I currently own an I7 3700 (non-k) 16 GB of DDR3 1866 and RX Vega 56 (flashed to 64).
I was thinking of upgrading to AM4 with a ryzen 7 5800x...
Let me hear your thoughts!

Thanks alot

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3 minutes ago, Alexmograine said:

Hello there, 
I've been struggling with deciding whether or not I should upgrade my CPU right now or wait for AMD to move to AM5 and DDR5. 
I currently own an I7 3700 (non-k) 16 GB of DDR3 1866 and RX Vega 56 (flashed to 64).
I was thinking of upgrading to AM4 with a ryzen 7 5800x...
Let me hear your thoughts!

Thanks alot

In my country as an example R7 5800x is 2 times more expensive than R5 3600x, in game you will not see much changes between them (+- max 20fps), you have to remember that OC is existing, so you can overclock your 3600x. Then you can pair them with 16GB 2x8 3200MHz RAM and B450 MOBO as a minimum.

 

 

 

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Are you not getting the desired cpu perf? 

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Just now, Helly Benchmarking said:

In my country as an example R7 5800x is 2 times more expensive than R5 3600x, in game you will not see much changes between them (+- max 20fps), you have to remember that OC is existing, so you can overclock your 3600x. Then you can pair them with 16GB 2x8 3200MHz RAM and B450 MOBO as a minimum.

in the us you can get a 5800x for at msrp.

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1 minute ago, Helly Benchmarking said:

In my country as an example R7 5800x is 2 times more expensive than R5 3600x, in game you will not see much changes between them (+- max 20fps), you have to remember that OC is existing, so you can overclock your 3600x. Then you can pair them with 16GB 2x8 3200MHz RAM and B450 MOBO as a minimum.

Here I can find the 5800X for 439 euros and the 5600x for 359 euros. I had planned a full upgrade with 3600Mhz CL 14 16gb ram and X570 mobo but as I said idk if I should upgrade right now 😛 

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2 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Are you not getting the desired cpu perf? 

Not at all I think my CPU is pretty old... I can't even run the battlefield games 4, 1, V without cranking everything to the max and increasing the resolution at which I run it to get cpu usage down from 100%...

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11 minutes ago, Alexmograine said:

Hello there, 
I've been struggling with deciding whether or not I should upgrade my CPU right now or wait for AMD to move to AM5 and DDR5. 
I currently own an I7 3700 (non-k) 16 GB of DDR3 1866 and RX Vega 56 (flashed to 64).
I was thinking of upgrading to AM4 with a ryzen 7 5800x...
Let me hear your thoughts!

Thanks alot

Rumor is AM5 will go with big.LITTLE architecture. If so, get a 3rd/5th gen ryzen, they're nearly same if the price gap is immense in your area.

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Just now, S.Hamed23 said:

Rumor is AM5 will go with big.LITTLE architecture. If so, get a 3rd/5th gen ryzen, they're nearly same if the price gap is immense in your area.

In theory, what would happen with the move to big/little architecture? I get it it's more power efficient but to me it sounds like we'd lose perf....

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Something like a 5600X and B550 or an 11600K and B560/Z590 would be a gigantic upgrade. If you have more money a 5800X and B550/X570 would be great. 

Oh, and new RAM

 

I wouldn't recommend @Helly Benchmarking 's tip as the 3600X is a really bad value right now.

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1 minute ago, davemc said:

Something like a 5600X and B550 or an 11600K and B560/Z590 would be a gigantic upgrade. If you have more money a 5800X and B550/X570 would be great. 

Oh, and new RAM

 

I wouldn't recommend @Helly Benchmarking 's tip as the 3600X is a really bad value right now.

So you definitely wouldn't wait for the move to AM5 and DDR5?

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14 minutes ago, Alexmograine said:

Hello there, 
I've been struggling with deciding whether or not I should upgrade my CPU right now or wait for AMD to move to AM5 and DDR5. 
I currently own an I7 3700 (non-k) 16 GB of DDR3 1866 and RX Vega 56 (flashed to 64).
I was thinking of upgrading to AM4 with a ryzen 7 5800x...
Let me hear your thoughts!

Thanks alot

If you can find it at msrp and have a budget for it, i don't see a reason to not upgrade the system...

Although those cpu could has more benefits and "value" if you have game or other software that can utilize all of of the cpu core/thread

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1 minute ago, Alexmograine said:

In theory, what would happen with the move to big/little architecture? I get it it's more power efficient but to me it sounds like we'd lose perf....

In desktop, paying for power saving is nothing but waste of money. Go for anything am4

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So you definitely wouldn't wait for the move to AM5 and DDR5?

Personally no. You're unsatisfied with current performance, and if I had to guess DDR5 will have a similar launch to DDR4 where it isn't much better for a year and wayyy overpriced. 

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1 minute ago, davemc said:

Something like a 5600X and B550 or an 11600K and B560/Z590 would be a gigantic upgrade. If you have more money a 5800X and B550/X570 would be great. 

Oh, and new RAM

 

I wouldn't recommend @Helly Benchmarking 's tip as the 3600X is a really bad value right now.

The main word "If you have a money", if you are living in country, where you can't buy anything your pc parts list in any budget can be more difficult to do.

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Helly Benchmarking said:

In my country as an example R7 5800x is 2 times more expensive than R5 3600x, in game you will not see much changes between them (+- max 20fps), you have to remember that OC is existing, so you can overclock your 3600x. Then you can pair them with 16GB 2x8 3200MHz RAM and B450 MOBO as a minimum.

Sorry I misread earlier, I thought you said R5 5600x instead of 3600x... 😛 While I agree that the 3600x is cheaper, the gap in performance is quite significant. I currently have the money to upgrade so i'll take latest gen but thanks 

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Just now, Helly Benchmarking said:

The main word "If you have a money", if you are living in country, where you can't buy anything your pc parts list in any budget can be more difficult to do.

When did he say he was? Lol

If he was thinking of buying a 5800X its clear he has money, anyone can figure that out easily.

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1 minute ago, S.Hamed23 said:

In desktop, paying for power saving is nothing but waste of money. Go for anything am4

Alright then, guess i'll get the 5800x 

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2 minutes ago, davemc said:

Something like a 5600X and B550 or an 11600K and B560/Z590 would be a gigantic upgrade. If you have more money a 5800X and B550/X570 would be great. 

Oh, and new RAM

 

I wouldn't recommend @Helly Benchmarking 's tip as the 3600X is a really bad value right now.

In my area, 5600x is same priced as a 3800x
So, getting the latter one isn't wiser?

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Just now, S.Hamed23 said:

In my area, 5600x is same priced as a 3800x
So, getting the latter one isn't wiser?

The 5600X is a faster gaming CPU, but both would be a huge jump from a 3770. 

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Just now, Alexmograine said:

Alright then, guess i'll get the 5800x 

Get a x570 mobo, you'll get higher maintained perf. Also you can OC the shit out of it too

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Currently; here in france the 5800x retails at 437 Euros, which is basically 20 euros BELOW MSRP.  The 5600x is at 349. I'd say future proofing with two extra cores is better no?

 

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1 minute ago, Alexmograine said:

Currently; here in france the 5800x retails at 437 Euros, which is basically 20 euros BELOW MSRP.  The 5600x is at 349. I'd say future proofing with two extra cores is better no?

 

Yeah probably.

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Just now, davemc said:

Yeah probably.

Perfect ! I'm trying to figure out whether or not to got mini ITX build... COnsidering I have a PCIE wifi bluetooth card already that I'd rather reuse

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14 minutes ago, S.Hamed23 said:

Rumor is AM5 will go with big.LITTLE architecture. If so, get a 3rd/5th gen ryzen, they're nearly same if the price gap is immense in your area.

That's zen 5 not am5. Zen 5 I supposed to be ryzen8000 so it will be a bit.

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