How is the ryzen 5 3600 better at productivity then the 10600k, or am I wrong?

[King of Memes]

Basically, I've heard everywhere that the 10600k is better for gaming, but the 3600 is better for productivity. But why, I mean, both have 6 cores 12 threads, it wasn't like the 9600k vs 3600 where the 3600 had hyper threading (which was a big advantage in productivity). But is what I'm hearing true, and if it is, how is it true. Thank you!

[jaslion]

They both perform near identical so get whichever really.

[Mister Woof]

3600 design is better in certain instructions, and their implementation of SMT is better than Intel's (Hyperthreading).

 

But the biggest reason why the 3600 was "better" was it used to be cheaper. That isn't the case any longer.

 

 

[King of Memes]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

3600 design is better in certain instructions, and their implementation of SMT is better than Intel's (Hyperthreading).

 

But the biggest reason why the 3600 was "better" was it used to be cheaper. That isn't the case any longer.

 

 

ok thanks that makes sense now. to bad its $250 now...

[Light-Yagami]

2 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

ok thanks that makes sense now. to bad its $250 now...

The best option for budget oriented CPUs is Intel's 10th gen i5 series, locked parts and F parts. 10400F for example.. if you can get it. They don't make it anymore and are trying their best to sell old stock and move 11th gen 

[MechWill]

Just now, Light-Yagami said:

The best option for budget oriented CPUs is Intel's 10th gen i5 series, locked parts and F parts. 10400F for example.. if you can get it. They don't make it anymore and are trying their best to sell old stock and move 11th gen 

10600K is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the 3600

[King of Memes]

3 minutes ago, MechWill said:

10600K is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the 3600

could you explain why it is, both are very good, but the 3600 has the impletmentation of smt, the 10600k does have more overclocking headroom the 3600 is also more power efficient 

[MechWill]

Just now, King of Memes said:

could you explain why it is, both are very good, but the 3600 has the impletmentation of smt, the 10600k does have more overclocking headroom

it has better overclocking headroom, a better base/boost clock (it matters a lot when browsing the web), has integrated graphics, better gaming performance, less likely to bottleneck the gpu, and more.

[King of Memes]

Just now, MechWill said:

it has better overclocking headroom, a better base/boost clock (it matters a lot when browsing the web), has integrated graphics, better gaming performance, less likely to bottleneck the gpu, and more.

are you forgetting the power efficiency and the stock cooler and the overclockability on cheaper motherboards, neither are better, both are good and it depends on what you want.

[xg32]

3 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

are you forgetting the power efficiency and the stock cooler and the overclockability on cheaper motherboards, neither are better, both are good and it depends on what you want.

that kinda changed with the release of 11th gen, the 11400f is the budget choice now, very rarely is zen 2 the pick anymore. for a higher end gpu 5900x and 5950x is the choice.

[Mister Woof]

6 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

could you explain why it is, both are very good, but the 3600 has the impletmentation of smt, the 10600k does have more overclocking headroom the 3600 is also more power efficient 

In games, raw frequency tends to win often. Additionally, most games don't really leverage SMT very well. A lot of times, turning the feature off improves performance as with HT on, it incurs a small single-threaded performance penalty.

 

People who game don't really care much about power efficiency. I personally feel it's an over-emphasized metric outside of small form factor applications.

 

As far as overclocking, 10th gen Intel chips can pretty reliably go beyond 5ghz and also generally are able to hit much higher memory speeds than Ryzen chips.

 

 

 

[King of Memes]

Just now, xg32 said:

that kinda changed with the release of 11th gen, the 11400f is the budget choice now, very rarely is zen 2 the pick anymore.

the 3600 doesnt make sense anymore considering that the 3600 isnt in stock at msrp and probably wont be in stock at msrp ever again. But the 3600 is still a great cpu, the 11400f is locked, meaning no overclocking. 

[Mister Woof]

38 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

the 3600 doesnt make sense anymore considering that the 3600 isnt in stock at msrp and probably wont be in stock at msrp ever again. But the 3600 is still a great cpu, the 11400f is locked, meaning no overclocking. 

Even if you can OC the 3600, it isn't going to catch up to the 11400F. At least not your typical overclocking.

[Light-Yagami]

On 4/29/2021 at 9:14 PM, MechWill said:

10600K is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the 3600

I was talking price wise.

 

But yes - since I don't really care about power consumption as long as I'm able to cool it with a good rad, I'd go for the 10600k and OC it as well. I have no issues to run my chips at 1.4v, since I keep them cool and I don't push them 100% all the time. I've had a 6700k OCed to 4.7ghz at 1.38v for 4 years now, and it hasn't shown any issues whatsoever. 

 

If you want to kill the CPU, you need to push 1.5v through it and run it at 100°C for years.. Which idk. Nobody does that probably. Except BuildZoid.

[MechWill]

On 5/2/2021 at 8:40 AM, Light-Yagami said:

I was talking price wise.

 

But yes - since I don't really care about power consumption as long as I'm able to cool it with a good rad, I'd go for the 10600k and OC it as well. I have no issues to run my chips at 1.4v, since I keep them cool and I don't push them 100% all the time. I've had a 6700k OCed to 4.7ghz at 1.38v for 4 years now, and it hasn't shown any issues whatsoever. 

 

If you want to kill the CPU, you need to push 1.5v through it and run it at 100°C for years.. Which idk. Nobody does that probably. Except BuildZoid.

still price wise the 10600K is currently better