Upgrading Pc

[Gojo Satoru]

Budget (including currency): ~500$CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly gaming (mainly rust), and some light programming for school

Other details 

Im looking to upgrade from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Intel i5 11400f

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YcJ2wz

The Deepcool Case I already own

What cpu cooler would best suit my needs?

Looking to squeeze  out max performace.

i already own a Gtx 1660 super which i will be pairing it with

 

 

[curiousmind34]

In my opinion it is not big enough of an upgrade to warrant it. I would wait for next gen or pay more money for a cpu that will actually be a considerable improvement.

[Ar558a]

Yeh a 2600 is still pretty decent, I'm not sure you will really notice a big difference. Normally I would say put the money into upgrading the GPU to maybe a 3060 but that only works in a MSRP market. 

[Arrogath]

if you already have a halfways decent motherboard from your r5 2600 build I would just look at a drop in replacement from newer zen, would probably be cheaper than buying a board + cpu combo, even if you're buying that cheap 11400f

[Gojo Satoru]

My board is very budget the b450m hdv,

from the benchmarks i saw the 11400f was slightly under the 5650x and well above a 3600 in many titles

[MadAnt250]

6 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

Im looking to upgrade from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Intel i5 11400f

I recommend not doing that.

[Gojo Satoru]

Just now, MadAnt250 said:

I recommend not doing that.

Currently my fps in rust dips down alot,

which is a cpu intensive game. In alot of benchmarks the 11400f outperforms the ryzen 5 2600 by fair amount.

[Downkey]

That’s like a 20% upgrade. Not worth it. It would be cheaper too just update your motherboard bios and put a 5600x in there (if you can find one ofc)

 

but the best solution is just to keep your current CPU tbh

[MadAnt250]

8 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

In alot of benchmarks the 11400f outperforms the ryzen 5 2600 by fair amount.

That is probably with a top of the line GPU, you have a GTX 1660 Super, your frame rate in games may only improve by a few fps or none.

8 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

Currently my fps in rust dips down alot,

This game is not known for running well.

[Gojo Satoru]

2 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

That is probably with a top of the line GPU, you have a GTX 1660 Super, your frame rate in games may only improve by a few fps. 

This game is not known for running well.

Bold of you to assume to benchmarks I saw,

but here you can see

a 10th gen i5 10400f with a 1660 and the performance is much better than what i see regularly.

 

[Gojo Satoru]

8 minutes ago, Downkey said:

That’s like a 20% upgrade. Not worth it. It would be cheaper too just update your motherboard bios and put a 5600x in there (if you can find one ofc)

 

but the best solution is just to keep your current CPU tbh

The 5600x is almost double in price

[Downkey]

2 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

The 5600x is almost double in price

Yes, but it’s being scalped atm (pain) and that doesn’t account for the motherboard prices. A good B560 is around 160 CAD

[Gojo Satoru]

2 minutes ago, Downkey said:

Yes, but it’s being scalped atm (pain) and that doesn’t account for the motherboard prices. A good B560 is around 160 CAD

the 209.99$ price tag on the 11400f or 239.99 on the 11400 look alot more attractive 

[MadAnt250]

18 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

a 10th gen i5 10400f with a 1660 and the performance is much better than what i see regularly.

There could be other factors that may be at play. What and much RAM do you have?

[Gojo Satoru]

7 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

There could be other factors that may be at play. How much RAM do you have?

Cpu - Ryzen 5 2600-Stock Cooler

MoBo - B450M- HDV

Ram- Ripjaws V 2x8gb @ 3200

Psu- ThermalTake 600w

Gpu - Gtx 1660 super 6gb

Storage 250gb wb m.2 ssd

1tb hdd seagate barracuda

[curiousmind34]

34 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

Bold of you to assume to benchmarks I saw,

but here you can see

a 10th gen i5 10400f with a 1660 and the performance is much better than what i see regularly.

 

dont compare your performance to becnmarks. If you want to have a real comparison make sure to format your drive and retest the game with your specs, youtube benchmarks will always have more fps than a year old install.

[MadAnt250]

1 minute ago, Gojo Satoru said:

Ram- Ripjaws V 2x8gb @ 3200

Ok, it is dual channel.

 

Waiting a generation or two may be better.

[Gojo Satoru]

3 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Ok, it is dual channel.

 

Waiting a generation or two may be better.

this does not help me as i am looking for better performance now

[MadAnt250]

Just now, Gojo Satoru said:

this does not help me as i am looking for better performance now

If you are making the move to upgrade and switch platforms, the i7 10700k would be better.

[Gojo Satoru]

3 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

If you are making the move to upgrade and switch platforms, the i7 10700k would be better.

the 10700k is double the price from i5 i would. be better of upgrading bios and getting a 5600x 

[dean_5234]

56 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

The 5600x is almost double in price

If you are not willing to wait for the 5600x to be back in stock get a 3700x. still in most games you wont see a gigantic improvement since the 3700x will be bottlenecked by the 1660 super

[Gojo Satoru]

3 minutes ago, davemc said:

If you are not willing to wait for the 5600x to be back in stock get a 3700x. still in most games you wont see a gigantic improvement since the 3700x will be bottlenecked by the 1660 super

the 3700x is around 400~ CAD where as the 11400f is 209.99 and slightly worse than the 5600x

[dean_5234]

7 minutes ago, Gojo Satoru said:

the 3700x is around 400~ CAD where as the 11400f is 209.99 and slightly worse than the 5600x

you're forgetting the need for a new motherboard.

Still, keep in mind that an upgrade from a 2600 to an 11400f is not worth it. I would recommend waiting until DDR5.

[Gojo Satoru]

2 minutes ago, davemc said:

you're forgetting the need for a new motherboard.

Still, keep in mind that an upgrade from a 2600 to an 11400f is not worth it. I would recommend waiting until DDR5.

y is the jump from 2600 to 11400f not worth it?

[tkitch]

Dude, you have a board that DOES support the AMD 5000 series CPUs.  

 

Flash your BIOS, and get a 5000 series chip.  Don't go through the headache of the other upgrades.

 

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M-HDV/index.asp#CPU