Build help

[Cakesbaby]

Budget (including currency): 350$

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for battlefront sea of theives

Other details hey forums does this work for a budget PC build

 

[DobertRownySr]

You won't be playing Sea of Thieves or Battlefront with this build. Unless you mean battlefront from 2004

[Cakesbaby]

What should I change 

[DobertRownySr]

Just now, Cakesbaby said:

What should I change 

Well, you need a graphics card to do any sort of serious gaming.

[dizmo]

For $350, if you want to game, buy a console.

[Gamer4714]

22 minutes ago, dizmo said:

For $350, if you want to game, buy a console.

Buy atleast a Nvidia 730 or 710.  Intel's Integrated HD is just nonsense, you cannot expect to game on it. Modern games will not run properly on it , myself on my old laptop had rewrite the code of some games and add the gpu's id and everything to get it work.ing

[Cheburek]

5 hours ago, Cakesbaby said:

Budget (including currency): 350$

Country: usa

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for battlefront sea of theives

Other details hey forums does this work for a budget PC build

 

Decent build you shouldn't really change anything except one big.thing.

 

GET THE 10100 with integrated graphics you have the F version meaning your computer wont work without a graphics card.

[Cheburek]

Just now, Cheburek said:

Decent build you shouldn't really change anything except one big.thing.

 

GET THE 10100 with integrated graphics you have the F version meaning your computer wont work without a graphics card.

 

Just now, Gamer4714 said:

Buy atleast a Nvidia 730 or 710.  Intel's Integrated HD is just nonsense, you cannot expect to game on it. Modern games will not run properly on it , myself on my old laptop had rewrite the code of some games and add the gpu's id and everything to get it work.ing

The integrated graphics are better than a GT 710 I would rather get at least a 1030 or 1050 ti.

[Gamer4714]

1 minute ago, Cheburek said:

 

The integrated graphics are better than a GT 710 I would rather get at least a 1030 or 1050 ti.

Nope. The integrated is running of our ram and still it has a ram taking limit (1gb) which we cant change. But looking at the 710 we have 2gb ram on board it's gonna perform way better. And yeah he has to buy a cpu with an iGPU in it.

[Cheburek]

20 minutes ago, Gamer4714 said:

Nope. The integrated is running of our ram and still it has a ram taking limit (1gb) which we cant change. But looking at the 710 we have 2gb ram on board it's gonna perform way better. And yeah he has to buy a cpu with an iGPU in it.

That's not true at all.

1.Firstly integrated graphics can take as much ram as they can,as long as they need the ram(which often they don't).

2.Secondly the GT 710 and GT 730 are so much crap they get beaten to the ground by any other GPU and integrated GPU,watch some benchmarks.

3.the onboard vram of the GT 710 is useless(not really but I'm saying it's not that important) since the GPU itself so slow so it can't make proper use of it,don't talk about things you don't understand.

 

The 10100 has modern Intel uhd which performs better than the previous iteration.

[Gamer4714]

 I'm not talking about what I dont understand. I saying what I know and which is true. Take a look

at this

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-710-vs-Intel-HD-3000-Desktop-V1-11-GHz/m77649vsm7649 

and this 

https://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1556&gid2=582&compare=geforce-gt-710-vs-intel-hd-graphics-3000-desktop#:~:text=In terms of overall gaming,Intel HD Graphics 3000 Desktop.&text=least DirectX 10.-,The Graphics 3000 has a 40 MHz higher core clock,Units than the Graphics 3000.

and this 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-710-vs-Intel-HD-5500-Mobile-095-GHz/m77649vsm16570 ,

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730-vs-Intel-HD-530-Desktop-Skylake/m12582vsm33102

and for your info https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730-vs-Intel-UHD-Graphics-630-Desktop-Coffee-Lake-i5-i7/m12582vsm356797 

The UHD 630 is said to be good for Good for every basic computer tasks you can ask and decent for gaming at 720p low.

And unrelated to the reviews the 730 can go upto 1440p with a small overclock and settings change.

[Cheburek]

2 minutes ago, Gamer4714 said:

 I'm not talking about what I dont understand. I saying what I know and which is true. Take a look

at this

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-710-vs-Intel-HD-3000-Desktop-V1-11-GHz/m77649vsm7649 

and this 

https://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1556&gid2=582&compare=geforce-gt-710-vs-intel-hd-graphics-3000-desktop#:~:text=In terms of overall gaming,Intel HD Graphics 3000 Desktop.&text=least DirectX 10.-,The Graphics 3000 has a 40 MHz higher core clock,Units than the Graphics 3000.

and this 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-710-vs-Intel-HD-5500-Mobile-095-GHz/m77649vsm16570 ,

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730-vs-Intel-HD-530-Desktop-Skylake/m12582vsm33102

 

That's not what the 10100 has onboard it has UHD graphics UHD 630 to be specific..

 

Did you even look at your own link?It says Intel HD wins!

 

Let's not forget that's userbenchmark is hated by nearly every computer forum for terrible and biased results.

 

Looking at the first result when I look up Intel UHD Vs GT 710 we can see that the integrated graphics of a modern pentium(UHD 610) beat the GT 710 by a couple frames.

Of course that's with the gddr3 version.

 

If you want a GPU,get at least a GT 1030 its 2x as powerful and will destroy the integrated graphics,get at least that.

 

 

 

[Gamer4714]

Just now, Cheburek said:

That's not what the 10100 has onboard it has UHD graphics UHD 630 to be specific..

 

Did you even look at your own link?It says Intel HD wins!

 

Let's not forget that's userbenchmark is hated by nearly every computer forum for terrible and biased results.

 

Looking at the first result when I look up Intel UHD Vs GT 710 we can see that the integrated graphics of a modern pentium(UHD 610) beat the GT 710 by a couple frames.

Of course that's with the gddr3 version.

 

If you want a GPU,get at least a GT 1030 its 2x as powerful and will destroy the integrated graphics,get at least that.

 

 

 

Mi Amigo hear me out any gpu is better than an i GPU, leave the benchmarks ask people who have experience. And at the right side of the websites you can see the more detailed info on the website about the cards. And at the last link i have the 730 vs UHD 630 comparison .

[Cheburek]

48 minutes ago, Gamer4714 said:

 The hd 630 is said to be good for Good for every basic computer tasks you can ask and decent for gaming at 720p low.

And unrelated to the reviews the 730 can go upto 1440p with a small overclock and settings change

That COMPLETE BULLSH.

Userbenchmark is complete and utter crap,many times mods even warn you if you mention it.It has such terrible reviews.Do not trust it.They don't have experience.Ask the mods on this forum and they will warn you to not use userbenchmark.

Secondly the GT 730 cannot run many games at 1080p not even the GT 1030 can in many games.

 

The UHD 630 is of course for 720p low,and so is the GT 730,it's not better by a wide enough margin.

 

You really don't know what you are talking about....

 

 And last have you tried AMD Vega? It completely destroys the GT 730 and 710 even the low end Vega 3 in 50$ Apus beats it by a wide margin.

Let alone Vega 11 that nearly but not quite beats the GT 1030 which is twice as strong as the GT 710.

 

You really don't know what you are talking about....x2

[Gamer4714]

7 minutes ago, Cheburek said:

That COMPLETE BULLSH.

Userbenchmark is complete and utter crap,many times mods even warn you if you mention it.It has such terrible reviews.Do not trust it.They don't have experience.Ask the mods on this forum and they will warn you to not use userbenchmark.

Secondly the GT 730 cannot run many games at 1080p not even the GT 1030 can in many games.

 

The UHD 630 is of course for 720p low,and so is the GT 730,it's not better by a wide enough margin.

 

You really don't know what you are talking about....

 

 And last have you tried AMD Vega? It completely destroys the GT 730 and 710 even the low end Vega 3 in 50$ Apus beats it by a wide margin.

Let alone Vega 11 that nearly but not quite beats the GT 1030 which is twice as strong as the GT 710.

 

You really don't know what you are talking about....x2

First of all . Also I said that iGPUs are not stronger than real gpus, I did not mention APUs which is from AMD. GT 730 can run 1440p, which is better than Intel's UHD. The 730 in 1440p can get good fps too. Ok then take a look at this https://game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=4096&gid2=2274&compare=intel-uhd-graphics-630-vs-geforce-gt-730-v2#:~:text=The GT 730 has a,than the UHD Graphics 630.&text=least DirectX 10.-,The GT 730 has a 552 MHz higher core clock,GPixel%2Fs better pixeling performance. This is turning out to be a debate , weren't we supposed to help the guy with his build.

[Cheburek]

1 hour ago, Gamer4714 said:

First of all . Also I said that iGPUs are not stronger than real gpus, I did not mention APUs which is from AMD. GT 730 can run 1440p, which is better than Intel's UHD. The 730 in 1440p can get good fps too. Ok then take a look at this https://game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=4096&gid2=2274&compare=intel-uhd-graphics-630-vs-geforce-gt-730-v2#:~:text=The GT 730 has a,than the UHD Graphics 630.&text=least DirectX 10.-,The GT 730 has a 552 MHz higher core clock,GPixel%2Fs better pixeling performance. This is turning out to be a debate , weren't we supposed to help the guy with his build.

It does not get good FPS on 1440p it can barely get 5-15 FPS on most titles.

Stop using these websites like gamedebate and userbenchmark.

 

It's a debate because this guy has this build and you are reccomending he should put a GPU like the GT 730 in it.

I disagree and you agree that's how it works right?

He is supposed to decide what's better for him.

 

 

[Gamer4714]

2 hours ago, Cheburek said:

It does not get good FPS on 1440p it can barely get 5-15 FPS on most titles.

Stop using these websites like gamedebate and userbenchmark.

 

It's a debate because this guy has this build and you are reccomending he should put a GPU like the GT 730 in it.

I disagree and you agree that's how it works right?

He is supposed to decide what's better for him.

 

 

Ok. What sites do you recommend for benchmarks

 

[Cheburek]

31 minutes ago, Gamer4714 said:

Ok. What sites do you recommend for benchmarks

 

Watch individual reviews on the graphics card and watch YouTube videos of people benchmarking that graphics card for an accurate view.

 

A easier way is to just use passmark,it doesn't give you much detail but it does give a rough estimate that only tells you the power of the card not necessarily the capabilities.

[dizmo]

10 hours ago, Gamer4714 said:

Buy atleast a Nvidia 730 or 710.  Intel's Integrated HD is just nonsense, you cannot expect to game on it. Modern games will not run properly on it , myself on my old laptop had rewrite the code of some games and add the gpu's id and everything to get it work.ing

Uh, no. Those GPUs aren't worth the money at all, and are often beaten by Intel iGPUs. 

 

Depending on the game they're more than capable. 

[Gamer4714]

6 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Uh, no. Those GPUs aren't worth the money at all, and are often beaten by Intel iGPUs. 

 

Depending on the game they're more than capable. 

Ok. Intel's iGPUs are better