Intel Pentium 4 with pins?

[Rocketdog2112]

Found this Intel Pentium 4 in what appeared to be an AMD socket.

 

Can this be used in a desktop currently using an AMD processor?

 

[BondiBlue]

No, it cannot be used in an AMD socket. It's an Intel CPU. That's a socket 478 Pentium 4 - they came before the LGA 775 P4s. 

[WhitetailAni]

Pentium 4's came on two sockets.

Socket 478, and LGA775.

Before LGA775, Intel used PGA sockets. Socket 370/Slot 1 was Pentium II/III, and Socket 478 ran earlier Pentium 4's. Later P4's ran on LGA775.

Source: I own a Socket 478 board with a P4.

PGA and LGA sockets are not AMD and Intel, respectively. AMD uses LGA for Threadripper, Threadripper Pro, and Epyc.

[BondiBlue]

4 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Pentium 4's came on two sockets.

Socket 478, and LGA775.

Before LGA775, Intel used PGA sockets. Socket 370/Slot 1 was Pentium II/III, and Socket 478 ran earlier Pentium 4's. Later P4's ran on LGA775.

Source: I own a Socket 478 board with a P4.

PGA and LGA sockets are not AMD and Intel, respectively. AMD uses LGA for Threadripper, Threadripper Pro, and Epyc.

Not quite. There were 3 sockets for Pentium 4 desktop chips: Socket 423, Socket 478, and LGA 775.

[doomsriker]

11 minutes ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

Found this Intel Pentium 4 in what appeared to be an AMD socket

This makes me feel old. Do kids these days really not know that Intel was once PGA too?

[Rocketdog2112]

4 minutes ago, doomsriker said:

This makes me feel old. Do kids these days really not know that Intel was once PGA too?

Well, I'm no kid at 55 years old.  Just a little late to the world of PC's.

 

 

[Rocketdog2112]

18 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Pentium 4's came on two sockets.

Socket 478, and LGA775.

Before LGA775, Intel used PGA sockets. Socket 370/Slot 1 was Pentium II/III, and Socket 478 ran earlier Pentium 4's. Later P4's ran on LGA775.

Source: I own a Socket 478 board with a P4.

PGA and LGA sockets are not AMD and Intel, respectively. AMD uses LGA for Threadripper, Threadripper Pro, and Epyc.

So what to do with it?

The motherboard it came out of lacks any SATA connections.

 

Just worthless junk?

[doomsriker]

2 minutes ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

Well, I'm no kid at 55 years old.  Just a little late to the world of PC's.

 

 

aww, I see well you got me on age there. My first PC was rocking a Pentium D dual core

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Rocketdog2112 said:

So what to do with it?

The motherboard it came out of lacks any SATA connections.

Sell it?
It's not completely useless.

Just now, Rocketdog2112 said:

Just worthless junk?

Oh, no.

[BondiBlue]

6 minutes ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

So what to do with it?

The motherboard it came out of lacks any SATA connections.

 

Just worthless junk?

A lack of SATA connections does not mean it is junk. If you don't want it then sell it to someone who does. 

[Rocketdog2112]

1 minute ago, BondiBlue said:

A lack of SATA connections does not mean it is junk. If you don't want it then sell it to someone who does. 

I better go grab that MB outta the trash can then...

[BondiBlue]

1 minute ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

I better go grab that MB outta the trash can then...

Yes, please don't trash it. I know it sounds crazy, but there are people who collect and use machines like that today. I've got a couple S478 project machines that I'll be working on soon myself, and in the past few years this sort of stuff has become harder to find. 

 

Most people see this stuff as worthless junk, but it's starting to regain value, especially with the rise of Windows XP retro gaming. 

 

Also, if you do ever get rid of electronic components as opposed to finding them a new home, please don't put them in the trash. Find an e-waste recycler to properly recycle it. 

[Rocketdog2112]

40 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

Yes, please don't trash it. I know it sounds crazy, but there are people who collect and use machines like that today. I've got a couple S478 project machines that I'll be working on soon myself, and in the past few years this sort of stuff has become harder to find. 

 

Most people see this stuff as worthless junk, but it's starting to regain value, especially with the rise of Windows XP retro gaming. 

 

Also, if you do ever get rid of electronic components as opposed to finding them a new home, please don't put them in the trash. Find an e-waste recycler to properly recycle it. 

Trash can was not entirely correct.

I do have one for electronics, but it does go to a recycler.

 

Here's that motherboard made by MSI...

 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Rocketdog2112 said:

Trash can was not entirely correct.

I do have one for electronics, but it does go to a recycler.

 

Here's that motherboard made by MSI...

 

That's a cool board.

Do you live in the US? If so, can I buy the cooler off you?

[Rocketdog2112]

1 hour ago, FakeKGB said:

That's a cool board.

Do you live in the US? If so, can I buy the cooler off you?

Yes, I'm located in Oklahoma.

 

It's actually peaked my interest. I think I'm going to see if I can get it up and running first before I start separating parts off it.

 

If I hit a wall or get bored with it, I will give you a shout.

 

 

[Sarra]

Whoo whee, an AGP slot.

 

So, that's a Northwood chip. 1 core, 1 thread, 32-bit only. That board's gonna be... DDR. Not DDR2, not DDR3, DDR.

 

So, in case you actually want it running, and able to play (really old) games, you'll need an AGP graphics card (maybe a GeForce 4?), some DDR, and a 32-bit Windows. I'd suggest... Uhhh... Maybe Windows XP? I know that Win 7 and Win 10 are available in 32-bit, but XP will have lower RAM requirements, and finding high capacity DDR sticks is going to be a challenge.

 

That's not a 'bad' Northwood chip. 2.4 ghz was respectable, and actually would perform pretty well. The HT chips, like the Pentium 4D, were really monsters for producing heat. I had a P4D as a project for a while, and it would heat my room up like nothing else. Even my Ryzen 9 doesn't heat my room up like that old P4D did.

 

Anyway... I don't think the onboard LAN is gigabit, either. (Checks pics) Yeah, it's... Uh... There isn't onboard. You'll have to find a PCI ethernet card, and probably be limited to 100 megabit.

 

I love old hardware, but... Even that's not really something I find interesting. I like the PIII stuff more, and LGA 775. The FCPGA 478 stuff just... Well, I didn't own one back then, and I don't think I'd go out of my way to own one now. Maybe a Xeon... But even then... I think I'd stick to LGA 775.

[Rocketdog2112]

5 hours ago, Sarra said:

Whoo whee, an AGP slot.

 

So, that's a Northwood chip. 1 core, 1 thread, 32-bit only. That board's gonna be... DDR. Not DDR2, not DDR3, DDR.

 

So, in case you actually want it running, and able to play (really old) games, you'll need an AGP graphics card (maybe a GeForce 4?), some DDR, and a 32-bit Windows. I'd suggest... Uhhh... Maybe Windows XP? I know that Win 7 and Win 10 are available in 32-bit, but XP will have lower RAM requirements, and finding high capacity DDR sticks is going to be a challenge.

 

That's not a 'bad' Northwood chip. 2.4 ghz was respectable, and actually would perform pretty well. The HT chips, like the Pentium 4D, were really monsters for producing heat. I had a P4D as a project for a while, and it would heat my room up like nothing else. Even my Ryzen 9 doesn't heat my room up like that old P4D did.

 

Anyway... I don't think the onboard LAN is gigabit, either. (Checks pics) Yeah, it's... Uh... There isn't onboard. You'll have to find a PCI ethernet card, and probably be limited to 100 megabit.

 

I love old hardware, but... Even that's not really something I find interesting. I like the PIII stuff more, and LGA 775. The FCPGA 478 stuff just... Well, I didn't own one back then, and I don't think I'd go out of my way to own one now. Maybe a Xeon... But even then... I think I'd stick to LGA 775.

I've actually got the Ethernet and AGP cards that came with it. I think I still have the original IDE hard drive.

 

Only missing the DDR.

[WhitetailAni]

1 hour ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

I've actually got the Ethernet and AGP cards that came with it. I think I still have the original IDE hard drive.

 

Only missing the DDR.

DDR isn't too hard to find last I checked. Just make sure to get DDR 400.