Is there any reason to buy 10700 over 10700k?

[iCoNrant]

Both can use MCE to boost to 4.6 and 4.7ghz respectively (need adequate cooler or else it won't boost), 100 mhz difference is pointless. 

One can overclock and one can't be overclock (I'm not the type of guys who overclock their processors). 

Prices :

i7 10700 = $314

i7 10700k = $362

i7 10850k = $398 (is for people who gonna rage on that price)

[PlayerLoler]

as far as I know the only diference between K and non-K is about overclocking

[Guest]

Well you don't overclock, it would make sense to spend less money. 10700 (non K) would be a fine choice. You just won't have that OC option. And you'd want a Z series board for all that anyways, so if you are definitely not getting a Z board, then get the non K 10700 and happy gaming to you!

[AndreiArgeanu]

There's a 50$ difference between the cpu's, and considering that most people won't overclock their cpu's it's a better idea to either save that 50$ or put it towards more storage/ram, better case, more fans, better cooling, more rgb etc., not to mention that if you get a k series cpu and you want to overclock, you also need z series motherboard which costs at least 60$ more which results in a 110$ difference between an i7 10700 with a B or H series motherboard, and an i7 10700k with a Z series motherboard, and that 110$ could potentially go towards a better GPU.

[dizmo]

If you don't OC, I'd just go with the 10700.

If you're looking at the 10700k, I'd just spend the extra on the 10850k.

 

Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

There's a 50$ difference between the cpu's, and considering that most people won't overclock their cpu's it's a better idea to either save that 50$ or put it towards more storage/ram, better case, more fans, better cooling, more rgb etc., not to mention that if you get a k series cpu and you want to overclock, you also need z series motherboard which costs at least 60$ more which results in a 110$ difference between an i7 10700 with a B or H series motherboard, and an i7 10700k with a Z series motherboard, and that 110$ could potentially go towards a better GPU.

Though it's worth noting you likely won't need better cooling. It doesn't run that hot, and most case cooling is sufficient enough.

Cheaper motherboards have far less RAM support.

[svmlegacy]

21 minutes ago, iCoNrant said:

Both can use MCE to boost to 4.6 and 4.7ghz respectively (need adequate cooler or else it won't boost), 100 mhz difference is pointless. 

One can overclock and one can't be overclock (I'm not the type of guys who overclock their processors). 

Prices :

i7 10700 = $314

i7 10700k = $362

i7 10850k = $398 (is for people who gonna rage on that price)

The 10700 is a "65 W" cpu while the 10700K is a "125 W" CPU. This means the power limits are a lot tighter on the 10700. If you have a good motherboard, these can usually be overcome, but if it's an OEM system, expect to see the all-core turbo and AVX speeds to be significantly lower than the 10700K in 100% stock configurations.

[AndreiArgeanu]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Though it's worth noting you likely won't need better cooling. It doesn't run that hot, and most case cooling is sufficient enough.

I just gave examples of things you could do with the extra money for the PC, not exactly a recommendation.

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Cheaper motherboards have far less RAM support.

If what you mean by that is ram slots, my point still stands. A B460M DS3H (cheapest motherboard with 4 ram slots) is still 50$ cheaper than the Z490M Pro4 (cheapest Z series motherboard). And that's in the US, in the UK it's even worse, there's a nearly 60£(80$) difference between the B460M DS3H and the cheapest Z series board here.

[Fasauceome]

Bear in mind for the motherboard difference, a non-Z motherboard will run your memory at 2933 with this specific i7 (Same with an i9). this is an adequate speed for memory but it's important to remember not to spend a ton of money on wicked fast ram for an H470 motherboard.

 

In some ways it's even more savings. You should spend extra for a Z490 and fast-ish memory for a K-SKU CPU but you don't have to.

Edited March 20, 2021 by Fasauceome

[dizmo]

Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

I just gave examples of things you could do with the extra money for the PC, not exactly a recommendation.

 

If what you mean by that is ram slots, my point still stands. A B460M DS3H (cheapest motherboard with 4 ram slots) is still 50$ cheaper than the Z490M Pro4 (cheapest Z series motherboard). And that's in the US, in the UK it's even worse, there's a nearly 60£(80$) difference between the B460M DS3H and the cheapest Z series board here.

Saying what you can do with the extra money does come across as a recommendation.

 

No, I mean RAM speed.

[svmlegacy]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Bear in mind for the motherboard difference, a non-Z motherboard will run your memory at 2933 with this specific i7 (Same with an i9). this is an adequate speed for memory but it's important to remember not to spend a ton of money on wicked fast ram for an H470 motherboard.

 

In some ways it's even more savings. You should spend extra for a Z490 and fast-ish memory for a K-SKU CPU but you don't have to.

Not to highjack, but does Intel lock memory frequency on non-Z series boards now? I thought it was just core OC'ing.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Not to highjack, but does Intel lock memory frequency on non-Z series boards now? I thought it was just core OC'ing.

They always had an upper limit for non-Z boards. For 100 series boards, it was 2133 (back when DDR4 was so new), for 200 series it was 2400, for 300 series it was 2666, and for 400 series they split it so 2666 goes for i5 and i3, while the i7 and i9 models have access to 2933.

 

There have historically been exceptions (B250 boards that can run any speed etc.) but that comes entirely down to the discretion of the AIB who made the board. There's not really a pattern.

[iCoNrant]

Dont mind if I come in late and said that b560 is here and overclocking (XMP) ram is possible on that chipset

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, iCoNrant said:

Dont mind if I come in late and said that b560 is here and overclocking (XMP) ram is possible on that chipset

About time, the i5 10400 was a bad buy when released solely because the performance was worse than the 3600 when paired with 2666MHz, really killed the launch

[iCoNrant]

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

About time, the i5 10400 was a bad buy when released solely because the performance was worse than the 3600 when paired with 2666MHz, really killed the launch

@FasauceomeNow is probably a better buy with 10400 with b560 motherboard and better ram

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, iCoNrant said:

@FasauceomeNow is probably a better buy with 10400 with b560 motherboard and better ram

Assuming B560 boards are available at a reasonable price. It would be sad if they cost as much as cheap Z490 boards, so you're not actually saving money.

[iCoNrant]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Assuming B560 boards are available at a reasonable price. It would be sad if they cost as much as cheap Z490 boards, so you're not actually saving money.

@FasauceomeB560 steel legend = $148

Prices in my country is higher than US so the pricing in US might be $110 for b560 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, iCoNrant said:

B560 steel legend = $148

Prices in my country is higher than US so the in US might be $110 for b560 

Yeah it's about $110 to $120 for the cheapest H570 and B560 so that's actually quite good, compared to $150 for Z490.

[iCoNrant]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Yeah it's about $110 to $120 for the cheapest H570 and B560 so that's actually quite good, compared to $150 for Z490.

This a good news for intel and gamers who doesn't need a high end board for feature, without sacrificing too much performance.