amd or intel? new build

[not_really_gamer]

Budget (including currency): 1650 usd

Country: America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: used primarily for gaming, maybe some editing

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

upgrading from nothing, i don't need any peripherals other than a better monitor, i was thinking 1440p 144 hz

i have 2 parts lists.

please help me decide which is better value at the moment.

amd build: verynoobpc - Saved Part Lists - PCPartPicker

intel build: verynoobpc - Saved Part Lists - PCPartPicker

[curiousmind34]

2 minutes ago, not_really_gamer said:

Budget (including currency): 1650 usd

Country: America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: used primarily for gaming, maybe some editing

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

upgrading from nothing, i don't need any peripherals other than a better monitor, i was thinking 1440p 144 hz

i have 2 parts lists.

please help me decide which is better value at the moment.

amd build: verynoobpc - Saved Part Lists - PCPartPicker

intel build: verynoobpc - Saved Part Lists - PCPartPicker

since when was the 5600x 350?https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=5600x&qid=1615483648&sr=8-1

[not_really_gamer]

Just now, curiousmind34 said:

since when was the 5600x 350?https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=5600x&qid=1615483648&sr=8-1

this build was made before it was back in stock lol. imma change that

[tire]

since your not just gaming, amd is a good place to have great performance and save a buck or two for other things

[not_really_gamer]

Just now, the communist potato said:

since your not just gaming, amd is a good place to have great performance and save a buck or two for other things

thanks, also one more question. Should i use an air cooler on the amd build or is that aoi fine?

[jynx_Moondoggie]

As of right now, Ryzen is the way to go in almost every category, unless you want too use integrated graphics.

[macktruck6666]

2 minutes ago, not_really_gamer said:

thanks, also one more question. Should i use an air cooler on the amd build or is that aoi fine?

I just replace my AOI cooler when I switched back to AMD (partly because it wasn't any longer compatible) and partly because the fans went bad.

Mileage may very, but you may want to make sure you have good fans that won't make tons of noise in 2 years.

[not_really_gamer]

Just now, macktruck6666 said:

I just replace my AOI cooler when I switched back to AMD (partly because it wasn't any longer compatible) and partly because the fans went bad.

Mileage may very, but you may want to make sure you have good fans that won't make tons of noise in 2 years.

can you recommend an aio for the 5 5600x?

[jynx_Moondoggie]

5 minutes ago, not_really_gamer said:

thanks, also one more question. Should i use an air cooler on the amd build or is that aoi fine?

aoi's are fine

 

 

[not_really_gamer]

1 minute ago, jynx_Moondoggie said:

aoi's are fine

 

 

do you have a specific one in mind?

[macktruck6666]

4 minutes ago, not_really_gamer said:

can you recommend an aio for the 5 5600x?

I've only had a 5600X for two days, so its still to soon for me to recommend from personal experience. I'll lets someone else with more personal experince give feedback.

There is significant improvement over my old 5820k on boot up time. Wether that is because of the CPU or that I don't have any programs auto starting on windows starting, or because I made my m.2 my boot drive... I don't know.

Again, over my old (but still very good) Intel 5820k, tests have shown that there is a real world performance increase from 18-25%.

[jynx_Moondoggie]

7 minutes ago, not_really_gamer said:

do you have a specific one in mind?

probably just some kind of nzxt kraken

 

[Downkey]

if you cheap out on the AIO and motherboard you can fit a 3080 in the 5600x build 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$107.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ B&H
Storage	Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$134.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.49 @ Newegg
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$700.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$94.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1611.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-11 13:09 EST-0500

 

[not_really_gamer]

9 minutes ago, Downkey said:

if you cheap out on the AIO and motherboard you can fit a 3080 in the 5600x build 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$107.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ B&H
Storage	Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$134.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.49 @ Newegg
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$700.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$94.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1611.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-11 13:09 EST-0500

 

you didn't put in an aoi

[Downkey]

1 minute ago, not_really_gamer said:

you didn't put in an aoi

you dont need one, the built in cooler is good enough. 

It's a 5600x, an AIO is overkill. A $50 SCYTHE FUMA 2 is more than enough.

the 5600x is not a hot running cpu

[not_really_gamer]

1 minute ago, Downkey said:

you dont need one, the built in cooler is good enough. 

It's a 5600x, an AIO is overkill. A $50 SCYTHE FUMA 2 is more than enough.

the 5600x is not a hot running cpu

thank you, and also btw i even managed to fit in a full atx board, no wifi but its b550 and came in around 130

[macktruck6666]

8 minutes ago, Downkey said:

if you cheap out on the AIO and motherboard you can fit a 3080 in the 5600x build 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$107.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$93.99 @ B&H
Storage	Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$134.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.49 @ Newegg
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$700.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$94.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1611.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-11 13:09 EST-0500

 

I essentially have this build.

I would suggest however considering a 850 watt power supply because it allows room for adding more devices latter without running into the danger zone of peak draw wattage from the 3080.

Other considerations would be to replace the 1 TB SSD with a 500 gb gen 3 m.2

I would prioritize the m.2 first so you could get your OS on the m.2 and add a sata ssd latter.

[King of Memes]

Note, get the XFX or MSI RX 6800 xt at bestbuy. Thats the $649.99

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	$49.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	$84.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$79.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$99.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card	$649.99
Case	Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1678.91
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1658.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-11 13:58 EST-0500

 

[Downkey]

5 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

I would recommend this:
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor	$268.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock B460 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$92.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$70.99 @ Newegg
Storage	ADATA Swordfish 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$37.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.49 @ Newegg
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB Video Card	$999.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$44.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$100.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1686.43
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$1671.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-11 13:27 EST-0500

 

Not a very big fan of that CPU choice.
Stock cooler with a 10700f? That's going to run very, very hot.
Low End SSD
$45 case with a 6900XT? It will work, but it's not going to be very great, not too mention only having one fan with the P300A is going to make your components run very hot
650W? That's dangerously low for a 6900XT

[King of Memes]

ok

[IkeaGnome]

35 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

Video Card Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card $649.99

Gigabyte sells theirs for $900, not 650 like the AMD FE.

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gv-r68xtaorus-m-16gc/p/N82E16814932392?Description=gigabyte 6800 xt&cm_re=gigabyte_6800 xt-_-14-932-392-_-Product&quicklink=true

[King of Memes]

Just now, IkeaGnome said:

Gigabyte sells theirs for $900, not 650 like the AMD FE.

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gv-r68xtaorus-m-16gc/p/N82E16814932392?Description=gigabyte 6800 xt&cm_re=gigabyte_6800 xt-_-14-932-392-_-Product&quicklink=true

oh, sorry. it should be the xfx or msi one.

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

oh, sorry. it should be the xfx or msi one.

You're still looking for the FE at that price..

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-merc-319-amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6442585.p?skuId=6442585#:~:text=Those cards also approach %24900,%24899 with 6900 XT performance).

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx-6800-xt-gaming-x-trio-16g/p/N82E16814137621?Description=6800 xt&cm_re=6800_xt-_-14-137-621-_-Product&quicklink=true

[King of Memes]

Just now, IkeaGnome said:

You're still looking for the FE at that price..

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-merc-319-amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6442585.p?skuId=6442585#:~:text=Those cards also approach %24900,%24899 with 6900 XT performance).

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx-6800-xt-gaming-x-trio-16g/p/N82E16814137621?Description=6800 xt&cm_re=6800_xt-_-14-137-621-_-Product&quicklink=true

no here, https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16g-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6440913.p?skuId=6440913

 

[macktruck6666]

Just a heads up, newegg has been having some deals on 2x16 gb 3600 mhz ram.

I got mine for $150 about 25% off current market price.

If you're interested just wait a couple days and see if a new listing pops up.