6Core/6Threads or 6Core/12Threads (Minecraft Server)

[SunnyVN]

I'm wondering between a Ryzen 5 3500X (6c/6t) vs Ryzen 5 3600 (6c/12t). For Minecraft Server, which one will be better?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Minecraft servers are basically single threaded, so it won't matter. Id probalby get something like a 10100 here, a bit faster single threaded, cheaper, and has a igpu.

[SunnyVN]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Minecraft servers are basically single threaded, so it won't matter. Id probalby get something like a 10100 here, a bit faster single threaded, cheaper, and has a igpu.

i3-10100 is good, but it doesn't have much core for my server, i'm looking for " 60+ players CPU "

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, SunnyVN said:

i3-10100 is good, but it doesn't have much core for my server, i'm looking for " 60+ players CPU "

What else is the server doing?

 

Minecraft servers are single threaded, so the extra cores won't help you here.

[flibberdipper]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Minecraft servers are basically single threaded, so it won't matter. Id probalby get something like a 10100 here, a bit faster single threaded, cheaper, and has a igpu.

Not super true anymore. They still really like single core perf, but they're needing more. As of 1.15? my 4.2GHz G3258 was barely able to do a vanilla server with just one person online, compared to 1.14 that'd handle half a dozen just fine. I'd probably just go with the hypethreaded part.

[Entropy.]

7 minutes ago, SunnyVN said:

I'm wondering between a Ryzen 5 3500X (6c/6t) vs Ryzen 5 3600 (6c/12t). For Minecraft Server, which one will be better?

Get a 10400f if you can, if you really want a 6 core. It's cheaper than a 3600, performs better in most aspects, and you can use a cheaper motherboard with it- and it still comes with a perfectly fine cooler included with it. 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

Not super true anymore. They still really like single core perf, but they're needing more. As of 1.15? my 4.2GHz G3258 was barely able to do a vanilla server with just one person online, compared to 1.14 that'd handle half a dozen just fine. I'd probably just go with the hypethreaded part.

A quad core should still be plenty here, and its still pretty single thread heavy now. Also that seems off, you should still be able to run a single player server on that g3258.

 

2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Get a 10400f if you can, if you really want a 6 core. It's cheaper than a 3600, performs better in most aspects, and you can use a cheaper motherboard with it- and it still comes with a perfectly fine cooler included with it. 

Id go with the non f so you have a igpu for video out.

[flibberdipper]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

A quad core should still be plenty here, and its still pretty single thread heavy now. Also that seems off, you should still be able to run a single player server on that g3258.

Nope. Friend's 8320 has the same issue, he used to do 16+ and now its having trouble with 6.

[SunnyVN]

3 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Get a 10400f if you can, if you really want a 6 core. It's cheaper than a 3600, performs better in most aspects, and you can use a cheaper motherboard with it- and it still comes with a perfectly fine cooler included with it. 

But it has a low Ghz, people said cpu need high Ghz

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, SunnyVN said:

But it has a low Ghz, people said cpu need high Ghz

turbo boost will run it at a higher speed than the listed base speed, it will run at about 4ghz under load.

[SunnyVN]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

turbo boost will run it at a higher speed than the listed base speed, it will run at about 4ghz under load.

can that make the cpu die soon?

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3 minutes ago, SunnyVN said:

But it has a low Ghz, people said cpu need high Ghz

That's... Not really true. It should perform better than a 3600. 

[mr cheese]

9 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What else is the server doing?

 

Minecraft servers are single threaded, so the extra cores won't help you here.

Minecraft servers are actually capable of using multi-core and do favor multi-core setups especially when configured correctly, things like paper, newer instances of Forge, and java garbage collection all take advantage of larger amounts of cores

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, SunnyVN said:

can that make the cpu die soon?

Nope, its fully stock and supported by intel.

[Entropy.]

Just now, SunnyVN said:

can that make the cpu die soon?

No. It's totally safe unless there's something else effecting your system/that component. 

[mr cheese]

Just now, SunnyVN said:

can that make the cpu die soon?

NO, turbo boost is intended behaviour and components like CPU's and GPU's don't actually wear unless heavily heavily overclocked by professionals

[SunnyVN]

1 minute ago, DaJakerBoss said:

NO, turbo boost is intended behaviour and components like CPU's and GPU's don't actually wear unless heavily heavily overclocked by professionals

So cpu turbo it self (auto), i don't need to touch anything of it?

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, SunnyVN said:

So cpu turbo it self (auto), i don't need to touch anything of it?

Yup, it will be fully automatic. The cpu will basically never run at that stock speed.

[SunnyVN]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Yup, it will be fully automatic. The cpu will basically never run at that stock speed.

if i choose i3-10100 (4c/8t), can it really run with 60+ players online? 

I have Survival, Skyblock and RPG server

[Entropy.]

2 minutes ago, SunnyVN said:

if i choose i3-10100 (4c/8t), can it really run with 60+ players online? 

I have Survival, Skyblock and RPG server

Perhaps. If you're going to be running heavily modded versions of minecraft, and you want to have 60 people on at the same time, well, you're not going to have too much fun with anything less than I'd say, well perhaps even an 8 or 10 core.

[cm992]

3 minutes ago, SunnyVN said:

if i choose i3-10100 (4c/8t), can it really run with 60+ players online? 

I have Survival, Skyblock and RPG server

Are you running a vanilla server? Forge? Sponge? Bukkit? Something else? Also is it for your main PC, will you be playing games on the same PC as the server?

[SunnyVN]

1 minute ago, cm992 said:

Are you running a vanilla server? Forge? Sponge? Bukkit? Something else? Also is it for your main PC, will you be playing games on the same PC as the server?

I use it as a " dedicated server "

 

I use Paper

Edited February 9, 2021 by SunnyVN

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, SunnyVN said:

if i choose i3-10100 (4c/8t), can it really run with 60+ players online? 

I have Survival, Skyblock and RPG server

Also what is your network speed, thats gonna be moving a good amount of data, esp the uploads. Many home connections will struggle with this load.

[SunnyVN]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Also what is your network speed, thats gonna be moving a good amount of data, esp the uploads. Many home connections will struggle with this load.

I can use " static internet " (up 100/ down 100)

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, SunnyVN said:

I can use " static internet " (up 100/ down 100)

Thats gonna be pushing it, I have seen >10mbit usage with 4-6 players, so 60 on 100mbit is probalby not enough.

 

Also home internet connections normally aren't garanteed, so you will often get less than 100mbit.