400$ pc

[Celtie]

Sooooo.... you know the refurbished chinese mobos on aliexpress, they come with 4x4gb ddr3 and like an e5 2689.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000037716531.html?spm=a2g0o.search0302.0.0.4e381cd8BJFtuZ&algo_pvid=8ee66d55-d024-4b21-9ac3-2b77cf68f101&algo_expid=8ee66d55-d024-4b21-9ac3-2b77cf68f101-0&btsid=0b0a555516126371631137834e62e2&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

well yeah that's 100$ total. SOO if you put it with a system like this?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$24.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 580 4 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$100.00
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$54.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$309.96
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$299.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-06 13:44 EST-0500

400$

[Middcore]

1 minute ago, FREnCH man KId said:

Sooooo.... you know the refurbished chinese mobos on aliexpress

We know of them. Although they aren't so much refurbished as they are assembled from scrap.

 

Beyond that, are you asking a question? 

 

 

[Celtie]

Just now, Middcore said:

We know of them. Although they aren't so much refurbished as they are assembled from scrap.

 

Beyond that, are you asking a question? 

 

 

Is it good?

[Celtie]

12 minutes ago, Middcore said:

We know of them. Although they aren't so much refurbished as they are assembled from scrap.

 

Beyond that, are you asking a question? 

 

 

U there

[Celtie]

Sooooo.... you know the refurbished chinese mobos on aliexpress, they come with 4x4gb ddr3 and like an e5 2689.

well yeah that's 100$ total. SOO if you put it with a system like this?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$24.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Adorama
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 580 4 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$100.00
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$54.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$309.96
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$299.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-06 13:44 EST-0500

Is it a good 400$ system

 

[mahyar]

pretty solid build 

[SansVarnic]

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[Middcore]

16 minutes ago, FREnCH man KId said:

U there

 

Don't spam me. This is not a chat room. If I'm interested in responding to you, I will, on my time. Pinging me with new quote notifies every 15 minutes is a quick route to my ignore list. 

[SupaKomputa]

Go to this forum and read it extensively before buying the motherboard.

Some are good, some are not, be careful of the purchase.

https://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=580210

 

Also get a 8gbx2 instead of 4x4gb.

[mahyar]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Go to this forum and read it extensively before buying the motherboard.

Some are good, some are not, be careful of the purchase.

https://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=580210

 

Also get a 8gbx2 instead of 4x4gb.

 4x4 is better for these xeon they can take advantage of quad channel

[Middcore]

14 minutes ago, mahyar said:

 4x4 is better for these xeon they can take advantage of quad channel

 

From what I understand some of these Chinesium boards can't actually use quad channel because they aren't true X79 chipsets, or they're salvaged defective X79 chipsets. In any case, if 4x4 is what the motherboard bundle comes with, not like we have much of a choice. 

 

2689 is not a bad CPU. 

 

 

Of course the problem is we're locked into a DDR3 platform with no worthwhile upgrade path. I guess for $100 we're considering the mobo/CPU/RAM basically "disposable"? 

 

I am amused by the preciously optimistic idea of getting a 480 for $100, though...

 

 

[Quadro]

9 hours ago, Middcore said:

We know of them. Although they aren't so much refurbished as they are assembled from scrap.

 

Beyond that, are you asking a question? 

 

 

'Assembled from scrap' naivity! the motherboards are of fine quality and not used.

[Celtie]

14 hours ago, Quadro said:

'Assembled from scrap' naivety! the motherboards are of fine quality and not used.

so should i avoid the chinese mobos??

[mahyar]

3 minutes ago, FREnCH man KId said:

so should i avoid the chinese mobos??

depends on the specific mobo

[Celtie]

23 hours ago, mahyar said:

 4x4 is better for these xeon they can take advantage of quad channel

Yeah i saw a benchmark between 4x4 and 2x8 and 4x4 only delivered 5 more fps 

[Middcore]

18 minutes ago, FREnCH man KId said:

so should i avoid the chinese mobos??

 

 If all you care about is trying to see how much usefulness you can wring out of the least amount of money there's nothing wrong with playing around with them. You have to understand they're probably going to have limitations, and that if there's any major problem there's not going to be any real documentation or customer support to rely on, or any large community of other users to ask for help. Just about every tech YouTuber anyone's ever heard of has done a video on the Chinesium boards by now so you can watch a bunch of those and probably get a good idea what to expect in terms of quirks. Name-brand X79 boards (Asus, MSI, etc.) still sell for way more in the second-hand market than their capabilities are worth because there's an enthusiast niche for them, so if you want to get bang for the buck from those old LGA 2011 Xeons then the Chinese mystery boards are the only real option. 

[Celtie]

10 minutes ago, mahyar said:

depends on the specific mobo

 

9 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 If all you care about is trying to see how much usefulness you can wring out of the least amount of money there's nothing wrong with playing around with them.

i saw this one on ebay it seems like a good deal the only issue is the one fan header.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/E5-V304-X79-Motherboard-LGA-1356-Socket-M-2-NVME-Support-REG-ECC-RAM-Xeon-E5-CPU/174570497220?hash=item28a53664c4:g:GpIAAOSwrCFfkVQk

[Middcore]

3 minutes ago, FREnCH man KId said:

 

i saw this one on ebay it seems like a good deal the only issue is the one fan header.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/E5-V304-X79-Motherboard-LGA-1356-Socket-M-2-NVME-Support-REG-ECC-RAM-Xeon-E5-CPU/174570497220?hash=item28a53664c4:g:GpIAAOSwrCFfkVQk

 

LGA 1356 was the socket for servers with dual CPU's. LGA 1366 was the socket for X58 chipset, X79's predecessor. In this case I can't tell whether the listing is erroneous and they mean it's an LGA 1366/X58 board, or if they've kitbashed a single-socket LGA 1356 board. Either way I wouldn't buy it because CPU's for X58 are even older and less capable than X79, and if it's really LGA 1356 then the pool of potential CPU's you can use is much smaller and I'm not even 100% sure they'll boot up in a single-CPU configuration.