cpu bottleneck or other issue?

[Peter Boyle]

Hi,

 

I managed to get my hands on a Gigabyte Aorus Master 3070 as I seen one come in stock. I stupidly didn't think about if my CPU would bottleneck this card and now that I've installed it I'm getting less FPS than I got with my 1080ti. I assume the issue is bottlenecking however can anyone confirm this or suggest any other reasons why? I have an i7-6700k.

 

I am currently debating sending the card back as I am getting drops to below 60fps which is making the games i play feel choppy in comparison to my 1080ti.

Thanks in advance

[TrigrH]

3 minutes ago, Peter Boyle said:

I'm getting less FPS than I got with my 1080ti.

I assume the issue is bottlenecking ....

Can't be bottle-necking. Bottle-necking doesn't work like that. A smaller than expected increase is a bottleneck.

A 1080ti to 3070 bottlenecked scenario would typically yield a 0 - 15% FPS increase not a negative one. 

 

Use MSI afternburner to monitor GPU usage, clock speed and temps as a graph. It might give you some more info.

[Pc6777]

I wouldn't send it back, they are hard to get right now you got lucky, could be drivers, use ddu to uninstall. and the 6700k is a little bit weak for that gpu, unless you play at 4k, or 1440p ultra maxed settings and are fine with 60 fps. but you can leave them together for now until you can afford something better, the 6700k is no slouch and is fine until you get something else. 

[Peter Boyle]

1 minute ago, TrigrH said:

Can't be bottle-necking. Bottle-necking doesn't work like that. A smaller than expected increase is a bottleneck.

A 1080ti to 3070 bottlenecked scenario would typically yield a 0 - 15% FPS increase not a negative one. 

 

Use MSI afternburner to monitor GPU usage, clock speed and temps as a graph. It might give you some more info.

Ok i will try that thanks a lot. If all checks out there do you think it could be a defective card?

[Peter Boyle]

Just now, Pc6777 said:

I wouldn't send it back, they are hard to get right now you got lucky, could be drivers, use ddu to uninstall. and the 6700k is a little bit weak for that gpu, unless you play at 4k, but you can leave them together for now until you can afford something better, the 6700k is no slouch and is fine until you get something else. 

I plugged the pc into my 4k tv and im getting around the same fps im getting between 60 and 75fps on cod warzone with the 3070

[TrigrH]

Just now, Peter Boyle said:

Ok i will try that thanks a lot. If all checks out there do you think it could be a defective card?

No, a defective GPU would show things like, crashing or black screens, artifacts on screen etc.

[Pc6777]

2 minutes ago, Peter Boyle said:

I plugged the pc into my 4k tv and im getting around the same fps im getting between 60 and 75fps on cod warzone with the 3070

the 3070 does have less vram, and if you play 4k 60 fps the i7 6700k if fine and you dont need to upgarde the cpu, if you wanted to play at 1080p or 1440p high refresh ate you would need a cpu upgrade, but the 6700k is fine for 60 fps gaming. try some other games to see if its just cod warzone and check vram usage, and use ddu and reinstall drivers and test again 

[Peter Boyle]

ah okay i thought that which is why i assumed it was a bottlenecking issue

[Peter Boyle]

1 minute ago, Pc6777 said:

the 3070 does have less vram, and if you play 4k 60 fps the i7 6700k if fine, if you wanted to play at 1080p or 1440p high refresh ate you would need a cpu upgrade, but the 6700k is fine for 60 fps gaming. try some other games to see if its just cod warzone and check vram usage, and use ddu and reinstall drivers and test again 

See i play on 1080p 144hz right now and i planned to stay at 1080p or maybe go up to 1440p. I prefer the smoothness to the higher resolution. Issue is I dont think i can really upgrade my cpu without needing a new motherboard as well so at that point im not sure if its worth the hassle since the 1080ti is still really good. ill try using ddu and reinstall the drivers right now

[Pc6777]

6 minutes ago, Peter Boyle said:

See i play on 1080p 144hz right now and i planned to stay at 1080p or maybe go up to 1440p. I prefer the smoothness to the higher resolution. Issue is I dont think i can really upgrade my cpu without needing a new motherboard as well so at that point im not sure if its worth the hassle since the 1080ti is still really good. ill try using ddu and reinstall the drivers right now

I have the same cpu as you, but I normally play at 60 or so fps because I use an rtx 2060 at 1440p, if you want 144 hz you need a better cpu, and you will need a motherboard, intel started being dumb and not letting you put server CPUs in desktop motherboards because intel loves putting up invisible walls everywhere. if the new market is bad for cpus right now, you could always get a used motherboard and an older i9 or i7 that has more cores like a 6 or 8 core i7, and reuse your ram. you can probably resell the 1080 ti for a good amount to help offset the cost of the 3070, i would just keep it  because future facing rtx and dlss stuff. I mean the i7 6700k can play easy to run fps games at 144 hz no problem, but hard to run triple a games will run at like 50-75 fps depending on how bad the optimization is. 

[Peter Boyle]

1 minute ago, Pc6777 said:

I have the same cpu as you, but I normally play at 60 or so fps because I use an rtx 2060 at 1440p, if you want 144 hz you need a better cpu, and you will need a motherboard, intel started being dumb and not letting you put server CPUs in desktop motherboards because intel loves putting up invisible walls everywhere. if the new market is bad for cpus right now, you could always get a used motherboard and an older i9 or i7 that has more cores like a 6 or 8 core i7, and reuse your ram. you can probably resell the 1080 ti for a good amount to help offset the cost of the 3070, i would just keep it  because future facing rtx and dlss stuff. 

Ok thanks for the help. I will probably take a few days to decide on what I am going to do. I was planning on building a new pc when i finish uni in a year or twos time which is why am not really liking the idea of buying more parts right now. thanks again for all the help everyone

[Pc6777]

1 minute ago, Peter Boyle said:

Ok thanks for the help. I will probably take a few days to decide on what I am going to do. I was planning on building a new pc when i finish uni in a year or twos time which is why am not really liking the idea of buying more parts right now. thanks again for all the help everyone

if you dont want to get a new motherboard/cpu, just play at 4k 60 fps to kill the bottleneck lol, might as well. 

[Peter Boyle]

5 minutes ago, Pc6777 said:

if you dont want to get a new motherboard/cpu, just play at 4k 60 fps to kill the bottleneck lol, might as well. 

Issue is i play a lot of competitive games so high refresh rate really is important to me 

[xg32]

1 minute ago, Peter Boyle said:

Issue is i play a lot of competitive games so high refresh rate really is important to me 

ampere does use more cpu for the same fps, so it could be a worse bottleneck than before, but it'd only make sense if your 1080ti was already bottlenecked.

 

be sure to ddu ur drivers.

[Pc6777]

1 minute ago, Peter Boyle said:

Issue is i play a lot of competitive games so high refresh rate really is important to me 

depending on the games you need high fps in the 6700k could hold you off for a little while, look up some benchmarks of the 6700k in the games you need high fps in. you could also overclock to like 4.8 or so ghz to squeeze some extra fps out. 

[Peter Boyle]

1 minute ago, xg32 said:

ampere does use more cpu for the same fps, so it could be a worse bottleneck than before, but it'd only make sense if your 1080ti was already bottlenecked.

 

be sure to ddu ur drivers.

Im reinstalling drivers rn but my 1080ti performed very well it was just starting to show its age a bit on warzone but tbh i think thats just cause that game is an optimized mess

[Peter Boyle]

1 minute ago, Pc6777 said:

depending on the games you need high fps in the 6700k could hold you off for a little while, look up some benchmarks of the 6700k in the games you need high fps in. you could also overclock to like 4.8 or so ghz to squeeze some extra fps out. 

I was thinking of overclocking my cpu however i only have a 650w psu so not sure if that will affect overclocking

[Pc6777]

Just now, Peter Boyle said:

I was thinking of overclocking my cpu however i only have a 650w psu so not sure if that will affect overclocking

if its at least a mid range unit you should be fine. 

[Peter Boyle]

1 minute ago, Pc6777 said:

if its at least a mid range unit you should be fine. 

I have an EVGA supernova G2 I think its called. cant remember its exact name

[Pc6777]

1 minute ago, Peter Boyle said:

I have an EVGA supernova G2 I think its called. cant remember its exact name

you will be fine overclocking with that psu

[Peter Boyle]

8 minutes ago, Pc6777 said:

you will be fine overclocking with that psu

Update: used DDU and now im getting 150-200fps on star wars battlefront 2 lol. Thanks a lot for the help