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Is a i5 10600kf a good upgrade from a i7 7700 non k?

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7 hours ago, OwayBaway said:

Should I expect better performance and will it eliminate all bottlenecks as I already have a good kit of memory? 
will it be a balanced system

 

I wouldn't say that a RTX 2070 is being vastly bottlenecked by an i7 7700. But yes, the 10600KF is quite a bit faster compared to your current processor. The system will be balanced and if you decide to upgrade to a better card in the future, like a RTX 3080 or a 6800XT it will go along just fine with the 10600KF. 

 

39 minutes ago, mrigmo said:

don't buy intel garbage processors anymore, holy crap, this is a tech tips forum. Get with it people. Apple makes better CPUs then intel and they are a design company that doesn't own a single fab, and they spend the majority of their money on advertising. Intel COULD have done things differently but unfortunately they set the whole world back at least a decade. Stop giving them your money, they don't deserve it.

 

 

It's not fair to say that Intel's current gen processors are garbage. In fact they are pretty good, especially for gaming! Are they competitive, that's an entirely different question. The OP is asking a simple question here, namely is the 10600KF a good enough upgrade compared to his old 7700. The answer to that question is yes. Also, do keep in mind that Ryzen 5000 series is not readily available everywhere and where it is it has quite a markup due to the high demand. 

I am running an rtx 2070 super and I want to eliminate any bottleneck

image.thumb.png.3ae29b3d1b6a89d1b7e3837021e50910.pngi put a screenshot from user benchmark and was wondering if this is a big enough image.jpeg.a0d648b16b859ad5f792034f3c43ac8f.jpegupgrade that i should pull the trigger, I was also wondering if there is a good motherboard, that looks good, like integrated io shield and coverings for io and vrms, Kinda like the style of this strix mobo shown

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Just now, OwayBaway said:

I am running an rtx 2070 super and I want to eliminate any bottleneck

image.thumb.png.3ae29b3d1b6a89d1b7e3837021e50910.pngi put a screenshot from user benchmark and was wondering if this is a big enough image.jpeg.a0d648b16b859ad5f792034f3c43ac8f.jpegupgrade that i should pull the trigger, I was also wondering if there is a good motherboard, that looks good, like integrated io shield and coverings for io and vrms, Kinda like the style of this strix mobo shown

oh and should i get the 10600k or kf, what's the difference?

 

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Just now, OwayBaway said:

screenshot from user benchmark

Ignore userbenchmark.
It's crap.

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Just now, OwayBaway said:

oh and should i get the 10600k or kf, what's the difference?

 

The KF doesn't have an iGPU, the K does.

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Just now, ragnarok0273 said:

The KF doesn't have an iGPU, the K does.

ok thats what i thought

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Just now, ragnarok0273 said:

Ignore userbenchmark.
It's crap.

but is it still a good upgrade?

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Just now, OwayBaway said:

but is it still a good upgrade?

If you get a good-value motherboard with it (I don't know which to recommend, sorry 😞), yes.

It's got 2 more cores and a higher boost clock.

It's up to you whether you want the K or KF.

 

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5 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

If you get a good-value motherboard with it (I don't know which to recommend, sorry 😞), yes.

It's got 2 more cores and a higher boost clock.

It's up to you whether you want the K or KF.

 

Should I expect better performance and will it eliminate all bottlenecks as I already have a good kit of memory? 
will it be a balanced system

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A 2070 Super with a 10600K(F) sounds fine to me.

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for the motherboard, just pick some with the features you want in your price point and look at some reviews and vrm temp test ...

I7 4770 non K

Sapphire nitro+ RX 590 SE

16 gig of G.Skill DDR3 at 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24

Asus Z97-A USB 3.0

Corsair HX 850 gold semi-modular PSU

Noctua NH-U12S with a second noctua NF-F12 fan
Antec 302 with stock antec 120mm and 140 mm as exhaust

1x Noctua NF-A12x15 as side exhaust

2x Noctua NF-S12A as intake

TeamGroup L5 3D Lite 1 Tb SSD

Toshiba DT01ADA200 2 Tb 7200 rpm 64mb cache

Logitech G305

GMMK tkl barebones with kailh speed copper and blank pbt dsa profile keycap. 

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don't buy intel garbage processors anymore, holy crap, this is a tech tips forum. Get with it people. Apple makes better CPUs then intel and they are a design company that doesn't own a single fab, and they spend the majority of their money on advertising. Intel COULD have done things differently but unfortunately they set the whole world back at least a decade. Stop giving them your money, they don't deserve it.

 

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7 hours ago, OwayBaway said:

Should I expect better performance and will it eliminate all bottlenecks as I already have a good kit of memory? 
will it be a balanced system

 

I wouldn't say that a RTX 2070 is being vastly bottlenecked by an i7 7700. But yes, the 10600KF is quite a bit faster compared to your current processor. The system will be balanced and if you decide to upgrade to a better card in the future, like a RTX 3080 or a 6800XT it will go along just fine with the 10600KF. 

 

39 minutes ago, mrigmo said:

don't buy intel garbage processors anymore, holy crap, this is a tech tips forum. Get with it people. Apple makes better CPUs then intel and they are a design company that doesn't own a single fab, and they spend the majority of their money on advertising. Intel COULD have done things differently but unfortunately they set the whole world back at least a decade. Stop giving them your money, they don't deserve it.

 

 

It's not fair to say that Intel's current gen processors are garbage. In fact they are pretty good, especially for gaming! Are they competitive, that's an entirely different question. The OP is asking a simple question here, namely is the 10600KF a good enough upgrade compared to his old 7700. The answer to that question is yes. Also, do keep in mind that Ryzen 5000 series is not readily available everywhere and where it is it has quite a markup due to the high demand. 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 - 3900x @ 4.4GHz with a Custom Loop | MBO: ASUS Crosshair VI Extreme | RAM: 4x4GB Apacer 2666MHz overclocked to 3933MHz with OCZ Reaper HPC Heatsinks | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra | SSDs: Intel 660P 512GB SSD and Intel 660P 1TB SSD | HDD: 8TB Seagate Backup Plus | PSU: Corsair RM1000i | Case: Cooler Master C700P Black Edition | Build Log: here

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4 hours ago, mrigmo said:

don't buy intel garbage processors anymore, holy crap, this is a tech tips forum. Get with it people. Apple makes better CPUs then intel and they are a design company that doesn't own a single fab, and they spend the majority of their money on advertising. Intel COULD have done things differently but unfortunately they set the whole world back at least a decade. Stop giving them your money, they don't deserve it.

 

ya i cant afford 5th gen ryzen, and going to ryzen 5 3600 just isnt much of an upgrade

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What resolution/refresh are you playing at?

 

I've got an i7-8700k at 5ghz and an i3-10100 system - (similar to 10600k vs i7-7700)

 

If you're playing at 60hz any resolution, you won't really notice a difference. 

 

Better to upgrade your display first.

My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.385v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LEd DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV Gamer 2: Intel i3-10100 // ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 // 16GB (2x8) DDR4 T-Force Vulcan 2666 // XFX RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Rosewill FBM-X2 // Gigabyte P750GM // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: LG 50" 4k TV // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 //ASUS RX 570 4GB // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y/ PBiip / Dell P2417H // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p // Redragon TKL Mechanic Keyboard + Mouse

 

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

What resolution/refresh are you playing at

1080p 144hz

also im trying to do more multitasking like recording and stuff like that while playing games like cod cold war

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3 minutes ago, OwayBaway said:

1080p 144hz

also im trying to do more multitasking like recording and stuff like that while playing games like cod cold war

I'd honestly try to get the 10700k if you can afford it. You're already going pretty high buy in with a Z board and cooler with the 10600k.

 

There's already some gains on 8 cores over 6 cores, and it will feel like a bigger upgrade over what you already have.

 

I'm on my 8700k at 5ghz and often find my CPU at 80-90% utilization in new games.

 

Personally, for a higher end gaming machine, I'd want more than 6 cores.

My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.385v // Deepcool Gamerstorm Assassin III // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LEd DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV Gamer 2: Intel i3-10100 // ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 // 16GB (2x8) DDR4 T-Force Vulcan 2666 // XFX RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Rosewill FBM-X2 // Gigabyte P750GM // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: LG 50" 4k TV // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 //ASUS RX 570 4GB // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y/ PBiip / Dell P2417H // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p // Redragon TKL Mechanic Keyboard + Mouse

 

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17 hours ago, mrigmo said:

don't buy intel garbage processors anymore, holy crap, this is a tech tips forum. Get with it people. Apple makes better CPUs then intel and they are a design company that doesn't own a single fab, and they spend the majority of their money on advertising. Intel COULD have done things differently but unfortunately they set the whole world back at least a decade. Stop giving them your money, they don't deserve it.

 

Intel shafted people for years and AMD's cost to produce the 5000 series is the same as the 3000 series, but they chose to price it $100 more.

None of these companies deserve brand loyalty. They are both scum. Buy what is good value. Go past the label.

 

THERE IS NO BAD PRODUCT, JUST BAD PRICING

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