Cracker's Video Editing PC Build

[FloridaCracker]

What's going on everyone? I'm new to the forum and new to the PC building world. (And no, I'm not a racist. Google "Florida Cracker" if you don't know what it is.) The reason I'm here is to get help from knowledgeable people who are willing to help someone put together a PC without over-spending. I've never put together any type of computer before, but have a general understanding of the process. I also have a general idea of what I want, and I have an idea of what my budget is. I know this forum, just like any other on the web, has a ton of this "hey i'm new, what do i do" threads, and the most common response is to use the search engine. I figured instead of posting numerous threads, I'l just continue to stick to my own personal thread and hopefully get some help along the way and I'll be posting pictures/videos of the build when it gets started. 

 

Here are the programs I'm wanting to run on my computer:

 

• Adobe After Effects CS6
• Adobe Premier Pro CS6
• Adobe Illustrator CS6
• Adobe Photoshop CS6
• Cinema 4D
• FL Studio 11

 

As for my budget, I want to stick around the $2000 range. And like most, I want to run the best CPU, the best GPU, good looking case, nice monitor, and have plenty of storage and I want to be able to run these programs at their maximum graphical capacities (is that even English???     ) with ease. 

 

So now that I know what I'll be using the computer for, what my budget is, and my overall goal, it's now time to start ordering parts (which are expensive! and that's why I need help!). So let's start with the CPU. I want to run an i7 processor, but not sure what the difference is between them all; i.e (4770k, 4930k, 3770k) (3.5GHz, 3.4GHz) (8MB) (LGA) (Quad-Core).

 

I'd really like to keep this entire build, from beginning to end, on one thread and I'm hoping LinusTechTips will be the home for it.

 

Thanks,

Cracker

[Izaya Orihara]

 Do you need peripherals? An OS? What case do you like? do you want a special form factor? (Compact pc?)  Also welcome to the forums. Enjoy your stay. 

[Karumu]

you really don't need the best CPU & definitely not the best GPU for running those programs, you will also struggle to get the pricing in your budget if you want to go for the best. i'm not going to make a build for you, as i do not have the time, but i'm sure someone will help you out the the best they can, but i'd just like to give you my input, WoodenMarker would be the best person to give you advice

[Paralectic]

A 4770K with 16GB Ram and a GTX 780 with enough storage is good for what you need.

It's really good for gaming, and you can benifit from the extra ram when modelling/video editing, and a 1080/1440p IPS monitor at 60Hhz is good for you.

 

For storage you could get a 256GB/512GB SSD, from any company you'd like.

A small recap

 

CPU: i7 4770K

GPU: GTX 780 

Ram: 16GB 1866Mhz

SSD: 256/512GB SSD

Motherboard, peripherals and other things near choice.

 

This is what I would do, not sure if it's the real best for what you exactly want but still.

[FloridaCracker]

 Do you need peripherals? An OS? What case do you like? do you want a special form factor? (Compact pc?)  Also welcome to the forums. Enjoy your stay. 

 

Not sure what peripherals are...

 

OS = Windows 8.x

 

Case = Something with plenty of room. Preferably LED lit and just something that looks bad ass. 

 

Not sure what a special form factor is...

 

Compact PC? From taking a guess, I don't think it matters. I have all the room in the world for my set up.

 

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate the help and look forward to learning more. 

[xox]

Are you including all of your programs with that, do you already posses the licenses?

[FloridaCracker]

you really don't need the best CPU & definitely not the best GPU for running those programs, you will also struggle to get the pricing in your budget if you want to go for the best. i'm not going to make a build for you, as i do not have the time, but i'm sure someone will help you out the the best they can, but i'd just like to give you my input, WoodenMarker would be the best person to give you advice

 

Thanks a lot. That's very reassuring that I'm not going to have to break the bank in order to run the programs I want to run. Thanks for the recommendation as well. 

[FloridaCracker]

A 4770K with 16GB Ram and a GTX 780 with enough storage is good for what you need.

It's really good for gaming, and you can benifit from the extra ram when modelling/video editing, and a 1080/1440p IPS monitor at 60Hhz is good for you.

 

For storage you could get a 256GB/512GB SSD, from any company you'd like.

A small recap

 

CPU: i7 4770K

GPU: GTX 780 

Ram: 16GB 1866Mhz

SSD: 256/512GB SSD

Motherboard, peripherals and other things near choice.

 

This is what I would do, not sure if it's the real best for what you exactly want but still.

 

Thanks a lot! That's pretty much the same thing I have in mind after doing hours and hours of research, so at least I was on the right track, which is a good thing. Quick question about the RAM though, is 16GB enough for all the 3D modeling and motion graphics, or would I be better off with 32GB? Or does the PC RAM have nothing to do with the GPU? 

[FloridaCracker]

Are you including all of your programs with that, do you already posses the licenses?

 

The $2000 budget is just for the build, not for software or any other extra add on's. 

[Izaya Orihara]

Not sure what peripherals are...

 

OS = Windows 8.x

 

Case = Something with plenty of room. Preferably LED lit and just something that looks bad ass. 

 

Not sure what a special form factor is...

 

Compact PC? From taking a guess, I don't think it matters. I have all the room in the world for my set up.

 

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate the help and look forward to learning more. 

Peripherals are monitors, keyboards, mices, mouse pads, headphones, speaker etc. That kind of stuff. If this is the budget for the tower alone then i recommend this setup : PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3c3CB

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3c3CB/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3c3CB/benchmarks/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3 93.3 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($259.00 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card  ($659.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.78 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.98 @ Best Buy) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.26 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $1990.96

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 12:04 EDT-0400)

[Paralectic]

Thanks a lot! That's pretty much the same thing I have in mind after doing hours and hours of research, so at least I was on the right track, which is a good thing. Quick question about the RAM though, is 16GB enough for all the 3D modeling and motion graphics, or would I be better off with 32GB? Or does the PC RAM have nothing to do with the GPU? 

16GB is more than enough, I can't see you using up 32GB ram, not even when you're doing 3D graphical work and modelling.

Only if you would edit hours of 4K content, then maybe.

[FloridaCracker]

 

Peripherals are monitors, keyboards, mices, mouse pads, headphones, speaker etc. That kind of stuff. If this is the budget for the tower alone then i recommend this setup : PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3c3CB

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3c3CB/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3c3CB/benchmarks/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler: Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3 93.3 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: PNY XLR8 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($259.00 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($109.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card  ($659.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.78 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.98 @ Best Buy) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.26 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $1990.96

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 12:04 EDT-0400)

 

 

That's a pretty sweet rig right there. Looks like I'm going to have to start forking out some money and getting on with the build. Much appreciated! 

[FloridaCracker]

16GB is more than enough, I can't see you using up 32GB ram, not even when you're doing 3D graphical work and modelling.

Only if you would edit hours of 4K content, then maybe.

 

I'd love to get into working with 4k footage, but that's just going to have to wait a decade until the prices for equipment come down. I'll mostly be working with 1080p stuff, for now anyways. 

[Izaya Orihara]

That's a pretty sweet rig right there. Looks like I'm going to have to start forking out some money and getting on with the build. Much appreciated! 

FYI this pc is most likely overkill for you but if you have to budget i will not stop you. 

[FloridaCracker]

FYI this pc is most likely overkill for you but if you have to budget i will not stop you. 

 

Is it overkill if I just use the computer to run the above mentioned programs?

 

Reason I ask is, I just figured those programs would require the best GPU's and whatnot. But ultimately, I want a computer that I can pretty much do whatever I want and not get any lag. For example, If I want to play the newest Battlefield on it, I want to be able to put the game on the HD and run it and not have any problems whatsoever. 

[Naty722]

I'd love to get into working with 4k footage, but that's just going to have to wait a decade until the prices for equipment come down. I'll mostly be working with 1080p stuff, for now anyways. 

I'd argue it's debatable whether 16GB is enough, if you do a lot of After Effects. For 1080p, I would recommend at least 2-3GB per core. With the 4770k, you have 8 'cores' that After Effects can use, and say you reserve 1 for other programs. 7*2 is 14 already. And typically you'd want 4-5GB reserved for other programs. Now if you're not doing lots of effects and stuff, you probably don't need to use every core, but I will say that when I was on 16GB, I was using 12GB just for After Effects no problem, and was wanting more. Especially when you're likely using Premiere Pro, Photoshop, and Illustrator at the same time. 16GB probably is fine if this is just for fun, and you're mostly just putting clips together, but just letting you know.

 

 

Is it overkill if I just use the computer to run the above mentioned programs?

 

Reason I ask is, I just figured those programs would require the best GPU's and whatnot. But ultimately, I want a computer that I can pretty much do whatever I want and not get any lag. For example, If I want to play the newest Battlefield on it, I want to be able to put the game on the HD and run it and not have any problems whatsoever. 

The programs you mentioned don't really need the best GPU. Games like Battlefield definitely are better with them. Premiere Pro uses the GPU fairly well, and After Effects in some particular cases, but that's about it. With that kind of budget, you might as well get a 780 though. The programs you listed really are much more CPU bound, but at this budget (and unless you're really doing a lot of AfterEffects/Cinema4D) the 4770k is your best option. I'm not sure what you mean by 'lag' regarding the Adobe products and Cinema4D though. If you mean everything is real-time, well, that's impossible. You could spend $4000 and still have to wait around when previewing some effects. But at your budget, that PCPartpicker list above looks pretty good. 

[Izaya Orihara]

Is it overkill if I just use the computer to run the above mentioned programs?

 

Reason I ask is, I just figured those programs would require the best GPU's and whatnot. But ultimately, I want a computer that I can pretty much do whatever I want and not get any lag. For example, If I want to play the newest Battlefield on it, I want to be able to put the game on the HD and run it and not have any problems whatsoever. 

 

Not really but that 'start forging out money' didn't seem like you are willing to spend 2 grands. 

 

maxed @4kUncompressedPorn. With everything crancked.

 

Maxed at 1080p with everything crancked: 

[FloridaCracker]

Not really but that 'start forging out money' didn't seem like you are willing to spend 2 grands. 

 

 

I definitely like the way that 780 looks....and to respond to your statement....

 

I definitely don't WANT to spend that kind of money on a computer. But I've already made the commitment and will start the ordering process very soon (a few weeks). 

[Izaya Orihara]

I definitely like the way that 780 looks....and to respond to your statement....

 

I definitely don't WANT to spend that kind of money on a computer. But I've already made the commitment and will start the ordering process very soon (a few weeks). 

 

 

1. It's a 780ti. It's important. 2. Enjoy your future PC. 

 

maxed @4kUncompressedPorn. 

 

 

 

Also what the heck?! I sure as hell did not write that UncompressedPorn part. 

[WoodenMarker]

Not sure what peripherals are...

OS = Windows 8.x

Not sure what a special form factor is...

Compact PC? From taking a guess, I don't think it matters. I have all the room in the world for my set up.

Peripherals include keyboard, mice, displays, speakers, headphones/sets, mics, etc. 

We're asking if you already have a copy of Windows or if you need to buy it and have it included in the budget.

I think he means specific form factor.

 

This belongs in the New Builds and Planning section. I'm moving the thread.

Please post in the correct sub-forum in the future.

 

Thanks a lot! That's pretty much the same thing I have in mind after doing hours and hours of research, so at least I was on the right track, which is a good thing. Quick question about the RAM though, is 16GB enough for all the 3D modeling and motion graphics, or would I be better off with 32GB? Or does the PC RAM have nothing to do with the GPU? 

16GB should be plenty although it would help if you described what you're doing a bit more regarding the type of content you're currently working on.

The system ram doesn't really have anything to do with the graphics card. Also, are you using US dollars?

 

For 1080p, I would recommend at least 2-3GB per core.

Where'd you get that number?

[FloridaCracker]

 

Also what the heck?! I sure as hell did not write that UncompressedPorn part. 

 

I don't have a clue where it came from either...lol. I'm on a work computer and this PC has never seen the word porn....until now. hahaha 

[FloridaCracker]

*We're asking if you already have a copy of Windows or if you need to buy it and have it included in the budget.

I think he means specific form factor.

 

**This belongs in the New Builds and Planning section. I'm moving the thread.

Please post in the correct sub-forum in the future.

 

***16GB should be plenty although it would help if you described what you're doing a bit more regarding the type of content you're currently working on.

The system ram doesn't really have anything to do with the graphics card. Also, are you using US dollars?

 

 

*I'm going to be buying Windows 8 64-bit as part of the $2000 budget

 

**Sorry about that

 

***The computer will be used for doing motion graphics, 3D modeling, video editing, and some gaming. I know i've read where the PP & AE programs rely on "CUDA" cores, or something like that. Not really sure what all that means though. 

[Naty722]

Where'd you get that number?

 

Personal experience. As soon as I go to 1.5 GB, multiprocessing pretty much always turns off, unless I have only a couple effects and layers, but then why would I be using After Effects in the first place? Also, untold number of Adobe documentation, and the general rule of not starving cores of RAM. It's always a case by case issue, but I've found that to be a good number. I've generally followed Adobe's suggestions and found good success: http://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/memory-storage1.html

 

For a typical project with HDTV-sized compositions, at least 2 GB per background process is recommended for optimum performance.

[Shaho]

Okay! I spent a while putting things together, and this is what came out of it. A computer that will be able to ace anything you throw at it in terms of rendering and working with the programs you mentioned. It's also perfect for gaming and streaming. Here we go...

 

(http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3caHw)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler:  Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard:  Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($376.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory:  Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($251.98 @ Best Buy) 

Storage:  Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($199.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($156.95 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($508.99 @ Amazon) 

Case:  NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($87.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ TigerDirect) 

Total: $2101.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 15:57 EDT-0400)

[Izaya Orihara]

 

Okay! I spent a while putting things together, and this is what came out of it. A computer that will be able to ace anything you throw at it in terms of rendering and working with the programs you mentioned. It's also perfect for gaming and streaming. Here we go...

 

(http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3caHw)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler:  Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard:  Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($376.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory:  Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($251.98 @ Best Buy) 

Storage:  Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($199.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($156.95 @ Amazon) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($508.99 @ Amazon) 

Case:  NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($87.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ TigerDirect) 

Total: $2101.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 15:57 EDT-0400)

 

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