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Hi everyone,

 

I am very confused and hoping for some help..

 

My rig ( in sig below) has all of a sudden started being extremley slow to fully load windows. Initial boot up and login is fine but then I get to the desktop and the taskbar items dont load and it just shows a spinning blue circle, I also cant access the start menu or any of the search functions. 

 

During this my start up apps such as razer synapse, corsair iCUE, Steam etc also do not open. I can however access and open apps if I navigate manually by opening a folder from the desktop to get into explorer. 

 

After 10iish minutes my taskbar loads and all runs like normal. I have no clue where to start troubleshooting this. Can anyone offer some advice?

 

Regards, Mark

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Tried rolling back any updates because as you said this happens after boot so when it started happening it might be the cause of an update.  

 

And if that doesn't work just reinstall windows and choose the options of keeping your data while doing it. 

 

That may not work either sometimes so just take a backup of your entire system on other hard drives if you have them or just pay for some more storage on google drive and do a clean install of windows rom a bootable usb.

 

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I think i've had something like this before. Navigate to task manager. Im assuming right clicking the task bar won't work so pressing ctrl alt delete can get you there. Find something called "explorer" and end the task. Your sreen will go black for a second but everything will reload and hopefully fix the problem. It's happenned to me twice before and I'm not sure what causes it

 

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2 minutes ago, richodude said:

I think i've had something like this before. Navigate to task manager. Im assuming right clicking the task bar won't work so pressing ctrl alt delete can get you there. Find something called "explorer" and end the task. Your sreen will go black for a second but everything will reload and hopefully fix the problem. It's happenned to me twice before and I'm not sure what causes it

 

That Most Possibly is a good solution but i doubt that is permanant I mean you will have to do that everytime your pc boots up

 

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In my situation it was a one and done but I didn't have the slow loading, just a frozen taskbar. we'll have to see what mark says

OUTDATED JAN 2021 ===========> Check out my pc building guide! might be useful tho

It's great for planning new builds, getting a reference on where to start, or seeing what you need to play what games.

It also shows what I recommend for upgrading your stuff!

cpu - ryzen 5 3600

gpu - gtx 1070

ram - (2x8) 3200mhz

ssd - 970 evo plus 500gb

ssd2 - 860 qvo 1tb

mobo - asrock b450m hdv r4.0

psu - evga b5 550w bronze

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24 minutes ago, terminator5105 said:

Tried rolling back any updates because as you said this happens after boot so when it started happening it might be the cause of an update.  

 

And if that doesn't work just reinstall windows and choose the options of keeping your data while doing it. 

 

That may not work either sometimes so just take a backup of your entire system on other hard drives if you have them or just pay for some more storage on google drive and do a clean install of windows rom a bootable usb.

 

 

Thanks for the advice! How do you roll back updates?

 

21 minutes ago, Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Enter these two commands in Command Prompt after your system comes to being usable.


DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

and let it finish, and then


sfc /scannow

and let us know if any errors come up.

No errors :( 

 


Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
 

19 minutes ago, richodude said:

I think i've had something like this before. Navigate to task manager. Im assuming right clicking the task bar won't work so pressing ctrl alt delete can get you there. Find something called "explorer" and end the task. Your sreen will go black for a second but everything will reload and hopefully fix the problem. It's happenned to me twice before and I'm not sure what causes it

 

Unfortunatley that doesnt resolve the issue. When i try to click on the taskbar during this 10 minute phase I think it is doing a restart of the explorer process due to the crash.

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11 minutes ago, Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Just to be sure, scan your system with either Norton Power Eraser or HitmanPro to see if something nasty might have gotten onto your system.

Norton Power Eraser reports no risks.. This is such a confusing problem.

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1 hour ago, Mark-McG said:

Hi everyone,

 

I am very confused and hoping for some help..

 

My rig ( in sig below) has all of a sudden started being extremley slow to fully load windows. Initial boot up and login is fine but then I get to the desktop and the taskbar items dont load and it just shows a spinning blue circle, I also cant access the start menu or any of the search functions. 

 

During this my start up apps such as razer synapse, corsair iCUE, Steam etc also do not open. I can however access and open apps if I navigate manually by opening a folder from the desktop to get into explorer. 

 

After 10iish minutes my taskbar loads and all runs like normal. I have no clue where to start troubleshooting this. Can anyone offer some advice?

 

Regards, Mark

Which anti virus/security software do you have installed?

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2 minutes ago, AnTraXbe said:

Which anti virus/security software do you have installed?

 

Just the standard windows defender, I did try running norton power eraser as per the advice above.

 

However I did have and recently uninstalled Malware Bytes, could that be the issue?

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22 minutes ago, Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Do you have fast startup enabled in 'what does the power button do'? If so, then turn it off.

 

It was enabled, I have now turned off. Away from PC now but will report back ASAP.

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2 minutes ago, Mark-McG said:

 

Just the standard windows defender, I did try running norton power eraser as per the advice above.

 

However I did have and recently uninstalled Malware Bytes, could that be the issue?

I use bitdefender and when the option "early boot scan" is enabled I have kind of the same issue. Maybe a similar option is causing this with your system.

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On 1/2/2021 at 10:03 PM, Mark-McG said:

 

It was enabled, I have now turned off. Away from PC now but will report back ASAP.

 

Unfortunatley this hasnt helped.. such a frustration :( 

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  • 1 month later...

Hey kind people!

I hope I am not late to this party! But I have the same issue on both my Laptop and Desktop. I've narrowed mine to the software I need for my university study - Solidworks, NI software suite and some other stuff. SW somehow starts this issue and makes it very bad. The way I know is because I had a fresh windows install, trying to get rid of that problem, and as soon as I installed it, it went to shit. It had barely any software installed and all windows updates were installed.


I did also notice, that solidworks has a shit tone of software connected to it's licensing (yeah, tried removing some of it thinking it was a virus or something... SW did not appreciate that and started constantly asking for a license key and had to reinstall...) so maybe it stems from there? Very aggressive DRM protection maybe is causing the problems, but why though? If anyone with the same issue can try to track down what software is causing it for them, it might help to narrow down the problem?

I've also seen a thread on another forum about a similar issue and an app, that logs what happens when the PC starts, but that one yielded nothing useful, just 1 hour of wasted time reading long logs. 😞

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