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2 hours ago, Xt1nxt_Ace said:

If you want more cores and threads but the same performance go ahead

Same performance right now.  You make a certain point though.  The requirements for games written for consoles are not yet made.  We don’t know what the cpu requirements will be.  
 

My limited understanding:

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NOTE: my surety of the below statement is lower than what I said above.  His is a topic I am pretty ignorant about.  I think this is how it works more or less, but I may be wrong.  There are a bunch of massive simplifications and derivations from other simplifications so there could be big problems:

 

You can run hundreds and hundreds of threads on a single core. Mainframes used to did it all the time.  It creates overhead though, which can get so large things quickly grind to a halt. Thus multiple cores.  

A given app can’t use more threads than it can use though, so if an app is designed for a particular number of available threads (games designed for the PS4 and XboxOne for example were designed for 6/6) it will run well on anything that has 6 or more available threads.
This means that 4/8 can run a lot faster than 4/4 even though it is almost the same speed, but only running applications that use more than 4 cores.

The new consoles are 8/16 so to maximize their use they can run a LOT more than 6 threads.  If there are apps that are designed to use more than 8threads 4/8 CPUs start to have the same problems that 4/4 CPUs are having.  If they have more than 12 threads 6/12 will start to have those problems too.  This puts a certain premium on 8/16 CPUs, because while no one knows how devs are going to write future games, they’re going to write them for jaguar2 8/16, so a similar chip that has 16 or more available threads  can’t have that problem. I don’t know how big that problem will be though.  It could turn out to be tiny, in which case 6/12 will have little of any problems. We just don’t know.  It hasn’t happened yet. 

 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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12 minutes ago, aidan22cheese said:

reliability and which ones the most powerful

Of that list the 5700xt is significantly more powerful.  

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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